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Old May 20, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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fumoto's what do you think?

So I just had my first oil change done at my dealer on my ecoboost. I had them install the fumoto valve so when I do the next change it will there. They put it on. But the service manager said he didn't regimens it. Stating he has seen them leak. Also have seen them pop open resulting in possibe engine failure. What is everyones opinion on this? I am kinda freaked out now as this is my first new truck in a long time and want it to last 300k
 
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Old May 20, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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Umm, 42,000 miles on the wife's car and 32,000 miles on my F-250 6.0L with no leaks and no accidental releases. I put one on my F-150 without hesitation. If you are concerned about the valve opening, get a clamp for it. Personally, I wouldn't sweat it.
 
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Old May 20, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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Your service manager is an idiot (surprise).

These are well proven and dependable items.

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Old May 20, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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I read alot on the fumotos and that is why I bought one. He really gave me the if I was you I would really watch it. Made me feel like an idiot for buying one. I was sure they were reliable when I bought one. Well I will keep it and see how it goes.
 
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Old May 20, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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Your service manager is lying---Period
 
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Old May 21, 2011 | 12:03 AM
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I had one on my 2003 F250 for 7 years and now I have one on my 2010 F150. The only time I ever saw it leak is when I opened it. Which is rather desirable. Once closed, it stops leaking, by the way. Tell him that next time you see him. He may think they are supposed to stay open the whole time, in which case, yes, it will leak.


What does he think about Moen faucets? Delta faucets?
 
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Old May 21, 2011 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by juneau76
Umm, 42,000 miles on the wife's car and 32,000 miles on my F-250 6.0L with no leaks and no accidental releases. I put one on my F-150 without hesitation. If you are concerned about the valve opening, get a clamp for it. Personally, I wouldn't sweat it.
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Your service manager is an idiot (surprise).

These are well proven and dependable items.

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Your service manager is lying---Period
Couldn't have said it better.

 
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Old May 21, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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I found out about the Fumoto's on this site. I have read several posts about how great they are. I do most of my own oil changes I enjoy doing them. I thought this was a sweet idea to avoid the wrench and oil on your hands. I took a look last night when I got home and how it fits it is pretty well protected even for off road. Plus I have a sheild protecting it from rocks. I would think it would be just fine.
 
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Old May 21, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by drh1175
So I just had my first oil change done at my dealer on my ecoboost. I had them install the fumoto valve so when I do the next change it will there. They put it on. But the service manager said he didn't regimens it. Stating he has seen them leak. Also have seen them pop open resulting in possibe engine failure. What is everyones opinion on this? I am kinda freaked out now as this is my first new truck in a long time and want it to last 300k
Your service manager is likely not a mechanic. If you have real concerns, purchase a hose clip as a safety lock.

At any-rate, read this page and scroll down the hose clamp as safety lock.

Fumoto Oil Drain Valve - Something good for a change
 
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Old Jun 5, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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I've had one for my F-250 since 2004 and although I had two dumb-a$$ (which should go back to mejiko) that ONCE REFUSED TO DO AN OIL CHANGE even though they have done it before......This valve is approved for FAA use and being spring loaded the valve will stay closed. a plus is that if you are inclined to do so you can get cleanly get oil samples to send to Blackstone Labs for a UOA ....
 
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Old Jun 5, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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There is nothing wrong with the fumoto valves. They work great. The only reason I don't have one is that I get oil on my hands when I change the filter anyway. So what's a little more oil on my hands.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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The only way you are going to get a Fumoto valve open is by using your hands. It has a double action type valve on it meaning you need to push the lever out and turn at the same time. I've heard all of the excuses such as it might leak, it might pop open, what if somebody drains your oil, etc but have yet to see a substantiated claim that anybody can back up.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2011 | 09:51 PM
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The only negative that I've heard is depending on the angle of the plug in your pan, that the threads of the valve may leave an eighth of an inch of oil at the bottom of the pan (which might be where there is some sediment), and it would seem to me that if the bore on the Fumoto drain hole is slighly smaller, it might decrease the velocity of the oil coming out of the hole and have slightly less flushing effect. But you might be able to drain the oil when it's hotter without burning yourself.

I would not really worry about either of the above, have never heard of a failure, and agree that if you're the kind of guy who pulls oil samples for analysis (which the Fumoto facilitates), that you are taking excellent care of your truck, and that will far offset any possible negatives of the Fumoto. I keep meaning to try one on one of my vehicles, but I find that pulling the filter is usually a bigger pain in the butt anyway.

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Old Jun 5, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by YoGeorge
The only negative that I've heard is depending on the angle of the plug in your pan, that the threads of the valve may leave an eighth of an inch of oil at the bottom of the pan (which might be where there is some sediment), and it would seem to me that if the bore on the Fumoto drain hole is slighly smaller, it might decrease the velocity of the oil coming out of the hole and have slightly less flushing effect. But you might be able to drain the oil when it's hotter without burning yourself.

I would not really worry about either of the above, have never heard of a failure, and agree that if you're the kind of guy who pulls oil samples for analysis (which the Fumoto facilitates), that you are taking excellent care of your truck, and that will far offset any possible negatives of the Fumoto. I keep meaning to try one on one of my vehicles, but I find that pulling the filter is usually a bigger pain in the butt anyway.

George
I've gone over this portion with others @ ah nutheah PSD site and was Obsessive compulsive enough to drain the oil with the Fumoto valve and then removed the valve only to discover less then 1/2 a tablespoon drained out. Your mileage may vary and past performance is no guarantee of future return etc.... but the residual is not enough to worry about.....IMHO that is... The lever is spring loaded so the only way it will open the 1/4 turn ball valve is by intention, IF it evah did open up guess what???? what evah made dat valve open up at that point in time it's dah least of Yo worries cuz dude you may be in some major deep sheep dip anyway....
 
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Hmmm, didn't know Fumoto had a PMA on the old F106N. Here's a pic of an F106N on a 4.6L Powerstroke Gasoline(tm) in my 2010 F150. (The dirt on various parts is the factory Ford XL Dirt package, pay no attention to that.)


 
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