Oh what a mistake!!
I have owned a full size truck or van continuously since 1978, but in recent years, my van sits a lot of the time while I drive an economical car on trips where I do not need the interior room.
And I have also bought and sold a LOT of vehicles over the years, including some that I dumped in a very short time when I found out I had made the wrong choice. The difference is that I bought them USED, and generally got out without any financial loss or even made a few bucks. In your situation, you are simply gonna get hosed by the dealers, who are in the business of making money on every transaction. They have to, in order to pay their employees and keep their lights on.
Good luck,
George
Sometimes making two rash decisions don't cancel each other out.
Don't fall in love with the first beautiful truck you test drive. Use the whole weekend to search and don't hesitate to walk out because you have a better deal elsewhere. Ask to speak to the GM if you must. He wants to shrink his inventory that weekend more than anyone else. I've had several push-a-unit deals. That means i was not a profit just a unit out the door!The dealership still gets factory kickbacks so it not a wash for them to just move a unit. If my salesman and detailer do a good job i don't hesitate to give them a good tip.
Btw if you have AAA see if they will do an X-plan for you my dealer did it twice for me.
Wow,am I glad I did! This truck is hands down the best vehicle I have ever owned, 35000 miles and 18 months later I am hooked! Two trips to Florida, lots of miles in New England, one set of tires and oil changes every 5000 miles and this truck is virtually faultless. I am sooooo converted!
Best thing is that my wife actually loves the truck. She says that it is too big for her own daily use but she loves riding in it and she even loves driving it occasionally. I am very happy I made the decision to trade in spite of the loss on the BMW.
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>UPDATE: So I went to VW today. The #'s they showed me were strange... in order to make it work for the bank they had to write it up as follows: Buy my Golf back for 29,700 (3k over sticker) and sell my truck to me for 27,700 (that was the sticker and they gave me 22,000 for it). AND the only bank that would do this deal wanted 6,000 down. As usual they weren't coming out upfront and telling me what the total was that I would be financing... and I didn't ask. Dealerships always tell you what your payment will be but not how much you're financing, so I always have to pry and crunch the #'s to figure it out. ("Oh you want to be at $500 a month? Ok here let me change that 60 months to 72 and bam there you go lets write it up!") But I digress. SO apparently there's another guy who will be working in the morning who has been doing this for years and years and may know of a bank that will do better for me, so they said they will ask him tomorrow morning as a final effort... we'll see.<o
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>And as many of you have guessed after the VW dealership I drove directly accross the street to the Ford dealership. I think the # for my trade in was $21,000 or so, which is low (sticker was $26,500). They were asking $28,500 for the ecoboost that I test drove (and loved <?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o
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This is what I would do.
Figure out what my payoff on the VW is as of right now. Nothing you can do about it if some of the truck was financed in with it. It's set in stone, so you should be able to come up with that number pretty easily.
Don't talk to the finance people yet. Find out what they are going to give you on trade, as if this were a cash deal, or you have your own financing. Don't tell them what you owe. Since they already probably know, act as if you are going to pay off the difference. If they are going give you $21k, fine. Don't let them monkey with numbers. If you owe more than they are giving you, find a way to pay off the difference. Don't let them add it back in with the new truck, and still have to come up with a large down payment. This is how dealers screw people everyday. If you don't believe that is what they are doing, be aware that financing $40,000 for 72 months at 7% would be about $680 a month. Do you owe $31k on the VW, $10k over what they are offering on trade? And if they require any cash down, they would be taking you even that much more.
Just my opinion, but slow down and get your numbers in order. Don't make a 8-10k mistake.
Good luck to you, hope it works out.
The F-150's are still hot selling trucks right now even with gas as high as it is. This isn't going to be easy no matter how you slice it.
Do you have total loss coverage, (gap insurance) on the VW?
Cars roll into lakes and rivers all the time.

There is NO WAY that the OP isn't going to get financially hurt in this deal. It was his mistake in the first place...dealerships will try to trade him out of it...but...it's going to cost!!! Dealerships are not...I repeat NOT...charitable organizations. They have bills to pay also!!!
This completely sucks. I don't see any up side to it. But I have to start moving in the right direction at some point. And I feel like a few years from now when I'm towards the end of the VW payment I will be glad that I keep it.
As SteveVFX4 mentioned this will put me right in line for the next gen F150.
OldGrayMare are you happy with your decision to keep the ranger or do you think it
would have been worth it to go back to a Bronco (or whatever you wanted)? I mean in the long run I'm still making a payment every month.....

There is NO WAY that the OP isn't going to get financially hurt in this deal. It was his mistake in the first place...dealerships will try to trade him out of it...but...it's going to cost!!! Dealerships are not...I repeat NOT...charitable organizations. They have bills to pay also!!!
Never an advocate of breaking the law, just making a funny.
Personally, if the payments are the same but for one more year, I think it's a pretty good deal.










