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my engine build up is nearly complete and I am now concerned with exhaust i have a 77 ranchero with a <a href="http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/">400m </a>and I have been unable to find any headers for under like 400 $ which would put my considerably over budget.
my question is could i use cleveland headers, theyre both 2bbl shouldn't it work?
my second question is could I just use headers for say a bronco or pick up truck?
my question is could i use cleveland headers, theyre both 2bbl shouldn't it work?
my second question is could I just use headers for say a bronco or pick up truck?
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The only ones that come to mind are the Hooker Super Comps. Are they way over $400, painted? I didn't price them, but gathered this info from their site. '72-up <a href="http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/">351c </a>Torino may fit, I can't say they won't.
http://www.<a href="http://motorhave.../Car.html#Ford
Year/1973-79
Engine 351-400M
Application FORD/MERCURY Falcon, Fairlane (1966 & Up), Torino, Ranchero/Comet, Cyclone, Montego
Baked-on Black Paint 6125HKR
Metallic Ceramic Coating 6125-1HKR
Footnotes 4, 33
P/S Y
P/B Y
A/C Y
S/T COL N
S/T FL Y
A/T COL Y
A/T FL Y
Tube Size O.D. IN 1-3/4x31"
Coll Size O.D. IN 3"
Coll LN IN 10"
Port Shape SAP
http://www.<a href="http://motorhave.../Car.html#Ford
Year/1973-79
Engine 351-400M
Application FORD/MERCURY Falcon, Fairlane (1966 & Up), Torino, Ranchero/Comet, Cyclone, Montego
Baked-on Black Paint 6125HKR
Metallic Ceramic Coating 6125-1HKR
Footnotes 4, 33
P/S Y
P/B Y
A/C Y
S/T COL N
S/T FL Y
A/T COL Y
A/T FL Y
Tube Size O.D. IN 1-3/4x31"
Coll Size O.D. IN 3"
Coll LN IN 10"
Port Shape SAP
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Truck headers may not have enough ground clearance.
I have headers on my 400 and will reccomend that you get the coated ones. They will rust terribly if you don't. I haven't seen any paint that will stay put.
Starter heating may become a problem. It's when the heat from the headers causes the starter to drag. You can put some thermal wrap around the header and the starter and cover the starter with some gasket material(not cork) or <a href="http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/">sheet metal</a>, then secure with large screw clamps(made like <a href="http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/">hose clamp</a>s).
Put some anti-sieze on the header gaskets. This will keep them from sticking if you have to remove them and seems to help with sealing. Also put some on the header bolts.
Headers are not NEEDED any way. You may can wait a little while and find the ones you really want. Run manifolds until you get them.
I have headers on my 400 and will reccomend that you get the coated ones. They will rust terribly if you don't. I haven't seen any paint that will stay put.
Starter heating may become a problem. It's when the heat from the headers causes the starter to drag. You can put some thermal wrap around the header and the starter and cover the starter with some gasket material(not cork) or <a href="http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/">sheet metal</a>, then secure with large screw clamps(made like <a href="http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/">hose clamp</a>s).
Put some anti-sieze on the header gaskets. This will keep them from sticking if you have to remove them and seems to help with sealing. Also put some on the header bolts.
Headers are not NEEDED any way. You may can wait a little while and find the ones you really want. Run manifolds until you get them.
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If you want Maximum flexability and minimum exhaust fabrication problems....My suggestion would be too either(1) run regular exhaust manifolds or(2) run Block hugger or shorty headers ...say from Sanderson's..they make the highest quality shorty's that are ceramic coated that are available thru the mail. I have a set on my 77 f250 , 4x4 and they fit great. The best thing to do is Just use your old exhaust manifilds....headers are a constant PIA....just like a girlfriend that is never happy....good luck.....fd
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I was under the impression that not having headers would vastly decrease my power is there any way i can get that power by say modifing the stock manifolds or making my own headers?
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Get some stock manifolds and have them extrude honed. My buddy did this on his 86 F-150 so he wouldn't have to modify his new exhaust for headers.
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I was going to suggest this also. When I looked into it a few years ago, they told me I could get 15-20% for flow out of the manifold but would cost $500. I wonder if the price is any better now.
I just got a walk-in deal on a set of shorties from Sanderson.
http://www.sandersonheaders.com/pagesbypartnum/fc3.htm
I just got a walk-in deal on a set of shorties from Sanderson.
http://www.sandersonheaders.com/pagesbypartnum/fc3.htm
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Pipe is a different diameter than tubing so it won't fit the bender tight. A very slight bend maybe, but you'll never get a tight radius. The tubing will collapse easily if a mandrel bender isn't used.
http://www.toolsforbending.com/mandrels2.html
You can buy the pre-bent tubing, exhaust port flanges, collectors, outlet flange, a lot of time and end up spending more than headers cost. I learn from the school of hard knocks.
http://www.toolsforbending.com/mandrels2.html
You can buy the pre-bent tubing, exhaust port flanges, collectors, outlet flange, a lot of time and end up spending more than headers cost. I learn from the school of hard knocks.
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i was going to say shorties but someone got there b4 me so I will second it equal length don't understand why but they look cool any way...lol
but it seems to me that any headers for that chassie would fit or I can't see why not anyway
but it seems to me that any headers for that chassie would fit or I can't see why not anyway
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YOU SHOULD TRY SANDERSON HEADERS IN SAN FRANCISCO, $285 FOR UNCOATED HEADERS YOU CAN USE SEVERAL COATS OF 1200 DEGREE PAINT TO COAT OR THE COATEDS SELL FOR 400.00 I THINK HOPE THIS HELPS!!
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