312 y-block on criagslist
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312 y-block on criagslist
1962 ford 312 engine
Looks like a deal to me, thought I might pass this along to you y-block folks. If it was an FE I be out buying it myself! But, I think it'd be a little tough to stuff a Y-block into my rig.
Sam
By the way- I'm not connected to the seller in any way, I just thought I mention that. I just hate to see good old iron melted down and sent to china.
Looks like a deal to me, thought I might pass this along to you y-block folks. If it was an FE I be out buying it myself! But, I think it'd be a little tough to stuff a Y-block into my rig.
Sam
By the way- I'm not connected to the seller in any way, I just thought I mention that. I just hate to see good old iron melted down and sent to china.
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1962 ford 312 engine
Looks like a deal to me, thought I might pass this along to you y-block folks. If it was an FE I be out buying it myself! But, I think it'd be a little tough to stuff a Y-block into my rig.
Sam
By the way- I'm not connected to the seller in any way, I just thought I mention that. I just hate to see good old iron melted down and sent to china.
Looks like a deal to me, thought I might pass this along to you y-block folks. If it was an FE I be out buying it myself! But, I think it'd be a little tough to stuff a Y-block into my rig.
Sam
By the way- I'm not connected to the seller in any way, I just thought I mention that. I just hate to see good old iron melted down and sent to china.
A LOT of people that do not know, call all Y-blocks "312".
Who ever decides to buy it should pull the pan to look at the main caps and the crank to determine for sure.
http://ford-y-block.com/Block%20identification.htm
I'm not absolutely sure, but I don't think the 312 was available in a truck originally......
I'd rather have a 292HD for a truck....
regards,
Rick
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How many 1962 FoMoCo vehicles came with a 312? None.
312: 1956/57 Ford Passenger Cars & Thunderbirds / 1956/60 Mercury Passenger Cars / 312's were not offered in trucks.
B&S: 312 = 3.80" x 3.44" // 292 = 3.75" x 3.30" // 272 = 3.62" x 3.30" // 256 = 3.62" x 3.10" (1954/55 Merc's only) // 239 = 3.50" x 3.10"
Note: 1955 Y with a 4V: The carb is the awful Holley "teapot" the auto choke is mounted on the intake manifold! / 1956 Y with a 4V = Teapot / 1957 312 w/dual 4V's = Teapots.
With a teapot, the intake manifold has a different bolt pattern, so...no other 4V carb will fit.
312: 1956/57 Ford Passenger Cars & Thunderbirds / 1956/60 Mercury Passenger Cars / 312's were not offered in trucks.
B&S: 312 = 3.80" x 3.44" // 292 = 3.75" x 3.30" // 272 = 3.62" x 3.30" // 256 = 3.62" x 3.10" (1954/55 Merc's only) // 239 = 3.50" x 3.10"
Note: 1955 Y with a 4V: The carb is the awful Holley "teapot" the auto choke is mounted on the intake manifold! / 1956 Y with a 4V = Teapot / 1957 312 w/dual 4V's = Teapots.
With a teapot, the intake manifold has a different bolt pattern, so...no other 4V carb will fit.
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How many 1962 FoMoCo vehicles came with a 312? None.
312: 1956/57 Ford Passenger Cars & Thunderbirds / 1956/60 Mercury Passenger Cars / 312's were not offered in trucks.
B&S: 312 = 3.80" x 3.44" // 292 = 3.75" x 3.30" // 272 = 3.62" x 3.30" // 256 = 3.62" x 3.10" (1954/55 Merc's only) // 239 = 3.50" x 3.10"
Note: 1955 Y with a 4V: The carb is the awful Holley "teapot" the auto choke is mounted on the intake manifold! / 1956 Y with a 4V = Teapot / 1957 312 w/dual 4V's = Teapots.
With a teapot, the intake manifold has a different bolt pattern, so...no other 4V carb will fit.
312: 1956/57 Ford Passenger Cars & Thunderbirds / 1956/60 Mercury Passenger Cars / 312's were not offered in trucks.
B&S: 312 = 3.80" x 3.44" // 292 = 3.75" x 3.30" // 272 = 3.62" x 3.30" // 256 = 3.62" x 3.10" (1954/55 Merc's only) // 239 = 3.50" x 3.10"
Note: 1955 Y with a 4V: The carb is the awful Holley "teapot" the auto choke is mounted on the intake manifold! / 1956 Y with a 4V = Teapot / 1957 312 w/dual 4V's = Teapots.
With a teapot, the intake manifold has a different bolt pattern, so...no other 4V carb will fit.
I do know that without the correct synthetic ball as opposed to metalic ball check valve, the vacuum signal to dist. will be wrong. Most if not all rebuild kits for 4000s come with a steel ball.
Some guys are running dual 4000s.
Just guessing on the CFM based upon the throttle bore size, but 350 maybe.
4000s can be run with the later centrifugal advance distributors, after very minor carb alteration.
I recently rehabed a '54 Merc intake and model 2180 4V. What is the problem with the choke mounted on the side of the intake? It seemed slick, again, I never have run the setup. There was no tube running from one side of the crossover to the other like in 56 57 intakes, often found burned out and a bitch to replace.
I did wonder on the 2180 about a hot air connection running directly from the manifold exhaust crossover up to the inside of the air intake. Seemed like a leaking float bowl gasket or overflowed float bowl could have access to exhaust gas. With a little amount of thought that could be remedied.
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ND, I have seen some of your other references to the "Terrible Teapot". I have never run one, have you? I am very aware of their reputation, but feel like there must be somthing more than "terrible". How about an objective critique of the antique? Really, it would be interesting. No sarcasm here.
I recently rehabed a '54 Merc intake and model 2180 4V. What is the problem with the choke mounted on the side of the intake? It seemed slick, again, I never have run the setup. There was no tube running from one side of the crossover to the other like in 56 57 intakes, often found burned out and a bitch to replace.
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I recently rehabed a '54 Merc intake and model 2180 4V. What is the problem with the choke mounted on the side of the intake? It seemed slick, again, I never have run the setup. There was no tube running from one side of the crossover to the other like in 56 57 intakes, often found burned out and a bitch to replace.
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I owned a 1956 T-Bird with this carb. Ford tune up guys didn't want to touch this and the others, referred to them as 'toilet bowl' carbs. FTE member Garbz2 sez peeps also called it a teapot.
So, either teapot or toilet bowl is apropos.
Peeps that owned 1955/56 vehicles with the teapot carbs switched to the 1957/60 4V manifold that used the Holley double pumper...when they could find one.
Even today, this 4V manifold is desireable (and very hard to find). One a the members (a hustler of parts) of the 1961/66 forum found one in a '64 F100 that had a swapped 1960 Merc 312 4V engine, asked if it was worth anything.
I said...go back and get it, you won't have it long.
I merely pointed out that the choke mounted on the intake manifold was odd, since most peeps are unaware of this unusual location.
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A friend who has been a professional mechanic since 1962(!) thinks the old T pots were cool carbs. Among his many talents is carb rebuilding, which he did 3 or 4 times a week for years. He had a chasis dyno in S. CA and often it would show up problems in the carburetion area.
On the 4000 with the float bowl mounted above the boosters/venturi's, improperly installed and maintained gaskets could be a special problem. Dont know how a backfire would affect it compared to later models.
I figure the intake mounted choke was done away with for cost cutting in casting and machining. One very interesting thing about the '54 Merc intake I mentioned, was that the casting was SMOOTH, outside and inside. Many of the '57 4V intakes have very rough castings, making them look ugly.
On the 4000 with the float bowl mounted above the boosters/venturi's, improperly installed and maintained gaskets could be a special problem. Dont know how a backfire would affect it compared to later models.
I figure the intake mounted choke was done away with for cost cutting in casting and machining. One very interesting thing about the '54 Merc intake I mentioned, was that the casting was SMOOTH, outside and inside. Many of the '57 4V intakes have very rough castings, making them look ugly.
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Enjoyed the info on the teapots, I heard them called "Haystackers", might be a regional thing.
Found these with CLAZ.com, searches all classified, including Craigslist.
The $50 for a running motor is practically free, wish I was closer. I know guys that have more than $650 in their heads for unleaded conversion so that is not a bad deal either, (some assembly required).
Auto Parts: Ford 292 Y-Block Motor - Kentucky, Louisville
Locate Any Auto: 1964 Ford Truck 292 V8 Y Block - Raleigh
Beings, I have an 56 F-350, I am more interested in reliabilty than raw power, with my gearing it does not take much power, just don't get in a hurry.
Found these with CLAZ.com, searches all classified, including Craigslist.
The $50 for a running motor is practically free, wish I was closer. I know guys that have more than $650 in their heads for unleaded conversion so that is not a bad deal either, (some assembly required).
Auto Parts: Ford 292 Y-Block Motor - Kentucky, Louisville
Locate Any Auto: 1964 Ford Truck 292 V8 Y Block - Raleigh
Beings, I have an 56 F-350, I am more interested in reliabilty than raw power, with my gearing it does not take much power, just don't get in a hurry.
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