No we are getting a answer .
So the Edge just dumps out more fuel, how do the others work?

Why do you need customer service? Ive had my Edge for 5 years and never had any reason to need customer service.
When and why do you need customer service.

 

I won't pretend I have the type of knowledge Jody does, but I know that each tune is CUSTOM tuned for my specific mods and truck, including elevation I live at, tranny mods I have done, Tire size, gearing, etc...etc....etc. I can shift on the fly between 16 different tunes, all can be custom made for YOU.

You ask why customer service is good? Really? Is there nothing you'd like to change about your Edge Tuner? Oh.....that's right......you CAN'T. It's off the shelf, made for millions of trucks exactly like yours. DP allows you to change your tunes, anytime you like. Example: You buy a new 22,000 lb 5th wheel trailer.....no problem, add a custom towing tune, and while you're at it.....the Decel tune, to give your brakes a hand from riding them all the way down every hill. Tired of shutting your loud Powerstroke off in drive thru's to order food? Order up the "drive-thru" tune....it muffles the sound tremendously! I could go on and on and on. As your truck grows, your tuner can grow with you. And with the F6....you don't even have to remove it, just talk with them, and they email you the exact files you want, pop em right in....done. Speaking of done.....I am

 

I forgot I posted up in the SD section...

Basically everything. Custom tunes are just that, You get tunes for the mods you have done and specific for your truck from tuners who have written some really good programs for the 7.3L specifically. Canned tunes are sold in a box that is one size fits all... With a chip, you get to shift on the fly between your tunes. The chip simply just fits onto your pcm and you don't have to run the chance of it messing up your pcm by storing your factory programming somewhere else and not restoring it correctly requiring you to reflash your pcm.

Remember, there is a reason the majority of us are running custom tunes vs canned tunes...

The canned tunes are better than stock, I am not saying they aren't a viable option for some. I'm just saying there are better options. If you are happy with your Edge, by all means, run it. It's not for me.

 

I was running the superchips Cortex programmer for 4 years. After the switch to stage I injectors, I needed a custom tune to accommodate them. I went with DP, Jody and Diane are great people and James was very helpful as well. Having driven with the Superchip for pleanty of time, I can honestly say that my 80e tune from Jody is WAYYYYYYYYYYY better than the "high performance" setting on the SC. The shift strategies are great, the response is awesome and when I pop it into the 120r, watch out!!! I love my DP tunes, here are my settings... show me an Edge programmer that can do this

0- no start
1- modified stock (stage I injectors)
2- decel
3- 60hp tow
4- drive thru
5- 80 econ.
6- 120 race
7- 1200 high idle (EBPV on)
8- 1500 high idle (chargin batteries for the stereo system, or jumping a friends chevy)
9- low fuel (for emissions testing)

Hands down, DP or TW chips are far more impressive than any off the shelf box. If you know anyone interested in a fairly new Superchips cortex, let me know... I have one for sale

 

Vegas, what would you want for your superchip

 

To get the most out of your engine means turning things up to the point where you can reach dangerous parameters. You can often times get buy with an off the shelf tuner with no gauges. When you get a custom tuner everyone will tell you gauges are a must so you don't melt a piston or damage your turbo.

The Edge and many others are programmed at safe levels so you don't have to worry about excessive EGT's or boost pressures for the most part. With a custom chip, you have to pay attention if you really push it or risk doing some significant damage.

If you're happy with the Edge, there is no reason for you to change. My wife's 01 came with an Edge. I didn't like the way it shifted the transmission. Too rough going into 3rd for my taste. Also, the stick shift comes with more HP from the factory than the auto did. My stock 6 speed would keep up with her auto with the Edge. When she put in Tony's chip I see nothing but tail lights now.

Again, if you're happy, don't change. My truck is stock and I'm happy.

 

Thanks guys im starting to understand a little more on how those things work.
I havnt seen any reason I need anything better than what I got but I see where your custom tunes my be a nice toys for some of you.

 

Hello Ken.

I think in your case, you need to keep the Edge. I ran the Superchip for 4 years and I had one of the fastes trucks around. Lots of the 7.3 guys around where I live have these off the shelf tuners as well. It was only after I found FTE and these guys here that I started learning how to mod my truck the right/safe way. I'm afraid if you start listening to these guys, you will get a case of PMS and there is no turning back.

OH, look at the pics of my truck and you will see I have a very heavy truck with it being a dually, 4x4, 95 gal transfer tank, and a big tool box. I'm not bragging but, my truck would put a spanking on your truck so bad, you would think you were pulling a big trailer.

If you ever decide to go with a bigger turbo and single shot injectors, give Edge a call and see if they can get it to run the single shots.

I think some of the other guys said it better.

 

I run a edge cst but its custom programed by Bill at Power Hungry see link Power Hungry Performance - Feed your hunger for POWER!. Most people on this site are all DP fans but for me the custom tuned edge from PH is a better value as its can pull codes and monitor for egt, temps ect. and can be custom tuned for any mods. It's another option to look at. I will agree with most on this site a custom tune is way better be it TW,DP or Power Hungery

 

You ever dyno that thing, Rick??

 

I'd take $250 for it... It's basically brand new, only been plugged in about 4 times. I was running the old Superchips programmer (same as the cortex, only cortex is updated and more features), then after it was stolen out of my truck, I switched to the Cortex. Had it for about a year.

It has some nice features, but now I have gone DP and I won't turn back.

 

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Mr. Goodwrench. That's funny. Thanks for the props, bro! How do you think more power is made? Just curious. Granted, WHEN the fuel is injected is very important but do you think that the black smoke that comes out of the tailpipe on Edge's 100 HP program, PHP's 100 HP program, DP-Tuner's 100 HP program, Superchips' 100 HP program etc., etc. is from anything OTHER than more fuel? It takes fuel to make power. There's no way around that. As I said at the beginning of this thread: If you haven't actually SEEN the tuning used between the different companies out there, you have no basis for this opinion. You'd be surprised as to just how SIMILAR they are and how much they've actually changed over the years....yes, Edge included. The older Edge Evolution "Game Boy" programmers had VERY aggressive engine tuning (which is why they ran so dang good). The bottom line is this: Run what you want to run. If you like the way the truck runs with a certain brand of tuning, by all means, run it! Yes, switch on the fly is nice. There's no questioning that. However, believe it or not, there are ZERO tuning companies out there that don't modify the tuning on a stock 7.3L similar to everyone else. There are varying degrees of how far into the tuning they get (and Edge goes all the way....same as any of the "custom tuners" out there) but for the most part, ANY aftermarket tuning is better than stock. Obviously, there are things that an off-the-shelf "canned" calibration unit can't do. As far as I was aware, this thread was started by a guy with a stock truck. In conclusion I will say that I have had the opportunity to run a WHOLE SLEW of different tuning. I have run two generations of Edge programmers in different 7.3L trucks, Superchips 1705 in three different 7.3L trucks, DP-Tuner in one truck, Western Diesel Performance in one truck, Banks in one truck, and Power Hungry Performance in three different trucks. I still own two of the trucks that have run this various tuning and I have driven MANY trucks that belong to people with various other tuning. I started doing my own tuning because while there are many good things about every one of those aforementioned products, there isn't one that performed (driveability/transmission/feel) exactly like I wanted it to. I have my favorites; but honestly, if I wasn't so picky in making my own programming, the calibrations on the 1705 programmer would still be my favorite.

 

So actually you guys are running pavment princesses and its a hobby too try and get more power?
That wasnt what i was thinking, my trucks mainly a workhorse and Ive got enough power to tow what I want, so i think we were thinking on diffrent wave lenghths.
How much more does a custom chip cost, to be able to tune to go through a drive through?

 

how do I get ahold of you? will it work on a 99 STOCK, I tow a 20,000 toy hauler, just bought this truck, I was hauling with my 1992 crew cab, with a 460. I'm new to diesels, thanks