Thanks Higgy, that is a good tip. Nearest Fastenal is about 100 miles, but I am headed that way next week if my USPS package doesn't get here first.

 

You are likely correct about that, in the pic you can see I already started drilling the head off one of the screws. I'm just loathe to destroy parts before I even know what the problem is. It "works" now, in fact it has been like that for 2 years.

So do you think I will have to buy a new set of hubs? I cannot get replacement parts for whatever is broken inside there?

thanks for all your help.

 

I can't really see it, PM sent (I think?)

Thanks!!

 

If the outer hub is trashed, and the hub is locked in perm, you'll have to replace the outer lockout portion.

Just go pick up some warn premiums and swap them all out instead of trying to re-use that outer. That way you'll have good peace of mind.

With that lockout being locked for a long time, the parts are probably fairly worn in there anyways.

Luckily, the big d50 and d60 hubs are way better than the d44 hubs on my f150, those things were junk compared to these big dogs.

There really wont be anything for you to fix inside, because the part that holds the hub open is what is broke, and you cannot just buy replacement parts unless you buy used.

 

Thanks yet again Talyn, I may update this post when I find out for sure but I don't have any reason to doubt your take on this. Replacing them is probably unavoidable.

I'll start shopping for some Warn hubs.

Thanks again everybody.

 

Riffraff Diesel: Warn Premium Hub Set

They are unforunatly not the cheapest.

If you look really hard you might be able to find a set for 189.

Premiums use a metal ring to lock and unlock the hub, standard uses plastic.

Before you order, make sure you check to see if you have the right spindle nuts inside.

The Auto hubs used 1 spindle nut, and the manuals use 2 spindle nuts.
Some people have swapped manuals in and never replaced the spindle nuts.
Its just an accident waiting to happen.

Clay also sells the auto-manual conversion nuts.

 

You can see in the bottom right the metal ring that locks and unlocks the gear in the lockout assembly.



on the left is the inside of your style hubs.

The premiums take a longer turn, but are more reliable than the plastic versions which are just a 90° turn.

The only differences I was able to tell in the d44 versions was the actual lockout assembly on the outside was different. The actual locking mechanizm is the same. So its really just a question of if you want metal or plastic in there.

 

You've got mail

 

I meant 189 for standards.
not for premiums.

 

I like my premiums they have held good I think the local oriellys sells them for $289 for premiums.

 

yeah, clay has them much cheaper.

 

please do. I'm about to do it too.

 

Awesome, thanks for all the tips Talyn, I'll be referring back to this thread.

Copedawg, I got your email, thanks a bunch.



KenC, I've just finished the driver's side. I have the springs off already to install an add-a-leaf and replace those bushings. Installing was easy, but removal was hard. I cheated and, after pulling out (what remained of) the rubber portion, used a torch to cut it in half and jerk it out (rubber? jerk it? pull out? Insert joke here). I tried to rig up a C-Clamp to push it out of there, but I couldn't clear the passenger-side propeller/axle shaft, which rides just behind the driver's side pivot. Also during the various jockeying of that side to make room to somehow drive out the old bushing, my front driveshaft got pulled out of the slip joint...

Absent the ocy-acetylene, I'm not sure how it comes out. Drive it out w/ a flat punch from the back side? I was going to search here for how you guys have done this, but just burned it off instead. I'm lazy that way.

After all the banging, cursing, and burning to remove the worn out one, the new one just drops in.

After I return a few calls I'm going to do the passenger side.




Don't even ask me about installing the add-a-leafs. I have a press and it was still a real pain to figure out how to make them go together.

Good luck.

 

lmc has the cheapest price on warn hubs ive found

standard 139.99

premium 169.99

link

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/fd/full.aspx?Page=141

 

Christian, those are d44 lockouts.