Ford Top-Loader revisited
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Ford Top-Loader revisited
Hello all.
I lost the line on my tremec 3550 today, the dealer sold it out from under me so I need to find an alternative.
I've done some research and found a few topics but what I need to find out is what vehicle application will the Top-Loader come from. The posts I've looked at didn't have the specific info. Like another user here I don't want the shifter to end up under the seat or on the firewall.
So.....my question is.......what Top-Loader am I looking for? These are the application categories one site I visited had listed......
Falcon, Comet, Ranchero?
Maverick, Comet?
Top-loader with Bronco Conversion?
Fairlane, Torino, Cyclone?
Full Size, LTD, Galaxie, 7 Litre?
Mustang, Shelby, Boss?
I lost the line on my tremec 3550 today, the dealer sold it out from under me so I need to find an alternative.
I've done some research and found a few topics but what I need to find out is what vehicle application will the Top-Loader come from. The posts I've looked at didn't have the specific info. Like another user here I don't want the shifter to end up under the seat or on the firewall.
So.....my question is.......what Top-Loader am I looking for? These are the application categories one site I visited had listed......
Falcon, Comet, Ranchero?
Maverick, Comet?
Top-loader with Bronco Conversion?
Fairlane, Torino, Cyclone?
Full Size, LTD, Galaxie, 7 Litre?
Mustang, Shelby, Boss?
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The Toploader was used in several Ford/Mercury products from 64 on. There are several different tailshafts, shifter arrangements etc. There were big input and small input versions. The big input versions were for the high horsepower cars, 428CJ's etc. David Kee Toploaders has all the parts you need to put one of these in an early truck. See the link below.
David Kee Toploader Transmissions, Inc.
David Kee Toploader Transmissions, Inc.
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The Top-loader was used in several Ford/Mercury products from 64 on. There are several different tailshafts, shifter arrangements etc. There were big input and small input versions. The big input versions were for the high horsepower cars, 428CJ's etc. David Kee Toploaders has all the parts you need to put one of these in an early truck. See the link below.
David Kee Toploader Transmissions, Inc.
David Kee Toploader Transmissions, Inc.
Yes I know about David Kee. The info I provided was from his site. I'm just not sure I want to drop the money for a new Top-Loader and to buy one for him to rebuild....I would need the info on rear shaft. I also am not sure what spline count I have or the shaft size. I haven't taken the trans out of the truck yet to get this info and didn't want to until I have a firm commitment on getting a new 4 or 5spd. That was the reason for the question. That is unless David Kee will do the rear housing swap in and splines but I'm not sure since I have been unable to reach them all day. Sent an email and called several times but no luck.
If anyone can say what is needed to bolt behind a 300 please let me know. I am not asking without having tried first. Been working on this for 2 days now and I'm going nutz trying to find the info out on the web. There is just too much garbage to sort through when you do a search.
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yes, that would be a In-line 300 6cyl. The bell housing for the 300-6, 289, 302 and 351 seem to be the same.
Thank you. But what about for those Full size cars like a galaxie that had small blocks" the tail shaft would be longer so my question remains out of what type of vehicle would I find the correct top-loader?
Thanks.
Thank you. But what about for those Full size cars like a galaxie that had small blocks" the tail shaft would be longer so my question remains out of what type of vehicle would I find the correct top-loader?
Thanks.
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According to David Kee's website, his shifter for trucks only works with a C4A or C6A tailshaft. The C4A would be the shaft found in 65-67 Galaxies with the 289 and 390 (small input). The 390 bellhousing wouldn't be right for you engine of course. The C6A tailshaft was found in 66-67 427 and 428 Galaxies and would be rare and valuable. I believe David Kee sells the tailhousings although I don't see them listed on his website.
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According to David Kee's website, his shifter for trucks only works with a C4A or C6A tailshaft.
The C4A would be the shaft found in 65-67 Galaxies with the 289
and 390 (small input). The 390 bellhousing wouldn't be right for you engine of course.
The C6A tailshaft was found in 66-67 427 and 428 Galaxies
and would be rare and valuable. I believe David Kee sells the tailhousings although I don't see them listed on his website.
The C4A would be the shaft found in 65-67 Galaxies with the 289
and 390 (small input). The 390 bellhousing wouldn't be right for you engine of course. The C6A tailshaft was found in 66-67 427 and 428 Galaxies
and would be rare and valuable. I believe David Kee sells the tailhousings although I don't see them listed on his website.There are no full sized Fords (Custom/Galaxie/500XL/LTD) with a 289 or 302 listed in the car parts catalog available with a 4 speed T/L. Full sized Merc's were not available with 289/302's.
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What about a 5 speed out of a late model F150 that had a 302 or 351 in it? Should be plenty of those floating around in bone yards right now.
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C4AZ-7A039-B .. Extension Housing / Marked: C4AR-7A040-A. Applications: 1964/67 390 full sized Ford/Merc passenger cars.
There are no full sized Fords (Custom/Galaxie/500XL/LTD) with a 289 or 302 listed in the car parts catalog available with a 4 speed T/L. Full sized Merc's were not available with 289/302's.
There are no full sized Fords (Custom/Galaxie/500XL/LTD) with a 289 or 302 listed in the car parts catalog available with a 4 speed T/L. Full sized Merc's were not available with 289/302's.
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