No, it absolutely does not mean that you'll have problems. There are people that think that having a tuner period, SCT or off the shelf doesn't matter, you'll be replacing head bolts with studs at bare minimum. Not really the case. However, like was mentioned, if you have 8 people that have had problems and 2 that haven't do you really want to play those odds? Does it mean you'll have a problem....no, but your odds are greater.

I've personally known a few that have had problems after installing Edge products, however, there could have had an issue before and the Edge just brought it out.

However, here is the irony, our computers need to be rebooted in order for certain parameters to take effect (mainly programming changes to the ECM/TCM). They is mutually exclusive from what shift on the fly programmers do as they modify signals in order to achieve the desire result.

Plays hell with the tranny as the tranny doesn't know which way to go. Those issues do take time to show up, how long depends on how people handle their new found power. For instance, it took a year running over 500HP before my stock tranny started going south and at the time the only thing I had to go on was quicker than normal warm-up in TFT, no slippage or anything. It would have probably lasted a little longer before the severe issues started showing up. Depending on how the next person handled that same amount of power with the same truck configuration as myself would determine if it takes more or less time for those same issues.

 

Alot of opinions about tuners and Edge specifcally but how many of you actually run them or have ever?? Ive had an edge juice with attitude on my truck for 5 years unlocked, trouble free. I ran it on level 6 constantly got better mileage. Now im stacked with a PPE programmer and have meth installed. 44 psi boost. Stock head gaskets, stock tranny 250,000km or 150,000 mi. Im planning headgaskets and studs soon but wont be because of failure. All im sayin is dont believe everything you hear, unless someone has first hand info cause its happend to them. Ive owned my truck since Jan 17th 2003 born Dec 21 2002, and im not nice to it, i drive it, i work it,tow with it and occasionally anihilate some moron at a light and its yet to fail. Just my 2 cents.

 

Myself...no. Do I personally know people that have had problems...yes.

If that is true, than you are one extremely lucky person. Also, stacking does actually cancel itself out, it isn't really giving you the benefit that you think that it is. Your Edge is actually modifying the signals that your PPE programmer is putting on the computer to get it's desired output. Your actually getting it from your meth and edge together, your PPE isn't doing squat. Unless you have dyno runs done after you added each individual mod. Meaning 1 dyno run with the first mod, than another dyno run with mods 1 & 2 and than a dyno run with mods 1, 2, & 3.

Also, if you are boosting 44 PSI you are heading for ruin if you don't have ruin right now. You may have a bad thing going on now, but no outward easily noticed symptoms have shown themselves or you haven't noted them as such, if you noticed them period.

I find it highly unlikely that something isn't being damaged with you having the mods listed and the readings that you are given with boost PSI etc. Something doesn't sound kosher.



Do you know ironically, the info you are giving me is something that I've "heard" and only have "heard" from you? Oh my, what to make of that considering the issues that I have with what you've mentioned in the above quote.

That has about as much weight as knowing what issues my friends have had with their trucks equipped with just the Edge module. I also know their abilities with their trucks, I don't know yours, so I place more faith in what I've heard and know about those people than this given that I have some issues with what your are saying. It just goes against everything that I know about the engine.

 

I have an EJF1000WAM that's sat on my closet shelf for 6+ years now. It's the original style before they started "hot unlock", and the strongest 6.0l modules they made. I ran it for only a short time because of the way the truck shifted with it installed. I knew my tranny wouldn't last as it flared, and slid into the next gear when I turned it up.

The bottom line is Edge modules, and similar products, don't do anything to help the transmission deal with additional power. The tranny can only learn to deal with so much on it's own. If you haven't had problems, then you're driving within it's limits, and only asking for moderate performance gains. You may never have issues if you drive conservatively. Turn it all the way up, try to make 100+ WOT passes at the dragstrip, and then tune down to tow at your max GCVWR for 80K miles through the mountains of the west, and see what you end up with. Been there, done that, still rollin my original transmission. Thank you SCT!!

 

Well tex I guess you should look a little more into programmers and stacking. yes it is very hard on equipment, yes Im stressin the hell out of my engine and tranny but it does make a difference. Running the PPE on level 2 and edge on stock setting im all ppe level 1 and 2 no noticable difference level 3 hang on. Meth I use for cooling egts and being straight piped and 5" exhaust its doin pretty good but when towing it helps bigtime. I have never taken it past level 3 with it stacked and yes my tranny is doing fine. Still have plans to do a tranny and head gaskets but will most likely pull the engine and go right down. I dont *****foot around like an 80 year old on borrowed time thinkin if i drive slower ill live longer. Im hard on my vehicles and the tire shop knows me well. And finally my signature is 100% true and theres more I couldnt fit. You dont wanna mod the hell out of your truck dont i personally dont care. I like pushin limits and if i blow somethin up ill buy or build another one.

 

I can tell you don't know me.

My mods:

Headstuds
Suncoast Tranny
Stage I Injectors
64mm non-vgt turbo
150/180 FASS Pump
ITP's RR Kit

Pushing 508HP at the rear wheels and I consistently am hauling ~16k worth of horseflesh and related equipment.

I'm the last person that pretends to be an 80 year old man with my trucks.

There's modding and than there is modding right. Any other assumptions you have about me that I need to clear up?

 

Sorry wasnt implying you drive like an 80 yr old but these forums are full of those who dont do 5 mile an hr over the speed limit and wont drive their truck unless their oil change is done on time and then the ones who still have their original brake pads!! I guess my point was i beat the jesus outta my truck and its tough as hell. I dont doubt the lemons cause they come under every badge but im just sayin our are tougher than ppl think.

 

Alot of input here about the Edge units, so I got to put my 2c's in to . My 04 had the heads pulled at 20k to do heads egr and oil cooler . When it was returned I installed the Edge A-2 with platium . The reason I put it in was to moniter the system . 110k later it has given me 23mpg hiway 15 in town (empty) without a breakdown . Now I row my 6sp not the computer . I tow and haul heavy and for long distances (see sig) . I drove heavy haul for years so that might have some advantage for it lasting this long . It really comes down to how each drivers treats his or her rig .

 

You don't have a sig!

 

Wow,thats what I get for being up late and not reading what I type . What I should have said was , look at my pic's,and I need to upload current photo's . Thanks for the edit 69cj

 

I agree 100% it comes down to driver and how its installed as well. You can set up different parameters for fuel and tranny and Im thinkin some maybe have plugged it in n put the pedal to the metal. Maybe its the lemon factor?? Dunno but I like bein tuned and Ive got more plans for mine forsure.

 

I was towing a 38' toyhauler with mine, ran it in tow only and it did what it was suppost to do. When I didn't have anything behind me I found myself often racing in 4 or 5, something a truck with 35s" isn't designed for. I will put it back in now the truck is out of warranty and paid off, and I have grown up a little bit. Shift points and not racing up the hill is the key.

My dad pulled a steep canyon with an old 73' f-100 with a 26' trailer and could show the big boys with duellys how it was done while they overheated. Learned alot!

 

Depending on which way you go, you will have to ditch the Edge. The Edge has certain parameters in it and if you change the stock engine (like I have) it's hard for it to keep it up. Stacking won't help either. At least not from an efficiency standpoint.

I'll say it again, you might not have any outward signs of damage, but if you are running what you say you are and working it as much as you say you are, you are either extremely lucky or living on borrowed time.

But than again, I still run the original EGR system(and it still works) that came on my truck. So who knows.

 

Will the higher I set my edge programmer will I get Better fuel milage

 

If Im running what I say I am? If Im as hard on it as I say? Seriously! Give your head a shake pal. Oh I just make **** up like some 14 year old school kid. Whatever. I dont have time for crybabies who are jealous or whatever. My truck is 100% legit. Ya Ive had a few issues and my head gaskets are stock. I dont really care what anyone believes.