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Old May 7, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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Thinking about doing a small build and need input.

Well finally decided to give the 7.3 a little bit of love. I had a injector going out and then another once decided to quit so I started thinking new injectors to just start over because there at 197,000 right now. Then yesterday I had my HPOP line rub through my hard fuel line feeding the fuel bowl :doh: The truck also has quite a few oil leaks one being the pan so I decided to pull the engine out and I am in the process of that right now. So I figure since I will have it out I want to do some things that would be easier to get at because the motor is out. For the top end I am going to do ARP head studs and Comp 911 springs. Here is where I start getting questions. I have heard good about the Gearhead cam and I am thinking hard about that since the motor is out, any one have any experience with it? Another is my Rods, I have forged but thinking about sending them to Wide Open to get them CRYO treated but do you guys think it is worth it? Also what about partially filling my block I hear a lot about it but what is getting filled, the water jackets? I tried searching but could not find the answer. And finally Injectors, I am on the fence between Full Force Stage Twos or Hybrids. I know Stage twos would be a great option with Terminator twins but don't want to spend that much right now for big oil so that it why I am leaning towards Hybrids. Any input on that would be awesome,
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Old May 7, 2011 | 03:16 PM
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I see where this is going! We're about to lose a good kid to "The Nation", aren't we? I see you logged in over there!

Just need to bring wheelbarrows of bucks!

You'll do good!

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Old May 7, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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No no your not loosing me haha, you guys are like family over here I could never leave
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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But the really-high horsepower guys are hanging "over there"......

I guess if you don't want to go to the ragged edge of windowing a block, then here is still a good place to hang your hat.

Just remember this:

YouTube - spoof

Always good to review that one!

Pop
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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How much "love" are you going to give the truck??

I don't know the details on a lot of what you asked, but from what I can understand, if you use the truck regularly, you wouldn't want to fill the block. I think it's filling the water jackets, that is done on high HP motors to make them more "solid" and one less thing to go wrong (coolant).

What's it cost to have the rods cryo'ed? I imagine it's expensive, and depending on your desired HP, is it necessary? But if you have the motor out and apart, opportunity cost is there (just did that with my semi trans, had to put a new clutch in, decided to send the trans in since it was laying on the floor, and it was a good thing cuz they had to rebuild the whole thing; hate to think of the cost if it went out when I was on the road: tow, pull trans again, down time not hauling loads, etc)

You'd have to talk to Cory about his build, he put a gearhead cam in, I can't remember if head work is necessary or desired to go along with the cam.


I'll sell you my '99 for a backup!

Side note: should be getting some tunes this weekend for the '08, and if Andrew will ever ship the delete pipe, I could be cutting donuts! None too soon, I think my DPF is cracked, getting a code all the time saying exhaust temps are too high, sensor #2 is reading 1500* pretty constantly, cruising down the highway egr temps are over 1000*. So it's sitting in the shop till the pipe shows up.
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Leave the 7.3 alone, destructo. You need something to drive when your other trucks are all broken.
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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Pops that was freaking awesome! Can't believe I have never seen that.

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But the really-high horsepower guys are hanging "over there"......

I guess if you don't want to go to the ragged edge of windowing a block, then here is still a good place to hang your hat.

Just remember this:

YouTube - spoof

Always good to review that one!

Pop


That was my thought on filled blocks but I a recall correctly Joey at TE has his 95 crew cab block partially filled and he tows with it and on PSN a guy named charles has his block filled partially and he tows with it long distance.

On the Cryoing I saw on there web sight rods that were magnafluxed and cryoed for 500, so I was thinking it might be cheaper to send in mine and have them do it.

Glad to hear your 08 is coming along and defiantly don't drive it with those temps. I hate to say it but with temps that high you might have a injector hanging open, what tuner did you go with?

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How much "love" are you going to give the truck??

I don't know the details on a lot of what you asked, but from what I can understand, if you use the truck regularly, you wouldn't want to fill the block. I think it's filling the water jackets, that is done on high HP motors to make them more "solid" and one less thing to go wrong (coolant).

What's it cost to have the rods cryo'ed? I imagine it's expensive, and depending on your desired HP, is it necessary? But if you have the motor out and apart, opportunity cost is there (just did that with my semi trans, had to put a new clutch in, decided to send the trans in since it was laying on the floor, and it was a good thing cuz they had to rebuild the whole thing; hate to think of the cost if it went out when I was on the road: tow, pull trans again, down time not hauling loads, etc)

You'd have to talk to Cory about his build, he put a gearhead cam in, I can't remember if head work is necessary or desired to go along with the cam.


I'll sell you my '99 for a backup!

Side note: should be getting some tunes this weekend for the '08, and if Andrew will ever ship the delete pipe, I could be cutting donuts! None too soon, I think my DPF is cracked, getting a code all the time saying exhaust temps are too high, sensor #2 is reading 1500* pretty constantly, cruising down the highway egr temps are over 1000*. So it's sitting in the shop till the pipe shows up.
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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I guess it won't be ready to run at the Division 2 NHRDA race in Redding on the 14th.

Gonna run the 450?

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Old May 7, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
I guess it won't be ready to run at the Division 2 NHRDA race in Redding on the 14th.

Gonna run the 450?

Stewart
Ah no lol. Running the 6.0 and towing with the 6.4
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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$100 + shipping from WOP to cryo and polish a set of rods iirc. Cryo the whole engine nick. Crank, head, block, cam.

I would clean up the head. Port and polish. Cam from gearhead. Bigger turbo.
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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Pop, tried to rep you, but I'm in jail... THX for the evening laugh, it's been a minute since I saw that video. One of the funniest things I've seen. (I remember the threads )
 
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Rods yes but a whole motor is a little much for me.


Originally Posted by jkidd_39
$100 + shipping from WOP to cryo and polish a set of rods iirc. Cryo the whole engine nick. Crank, head, block, cam.

I would clean up the head. Port and polish. Cam from gearhead. Bigger turbo.
 
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Old May 8, 2011 | 09:06 AM
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i went a little crazy lately ordering engine parts and think im gonna wind up over 450 so ill tell you what im doing ...scale back as nessacary

arp studs
stage 3 hybrids 250cc/100%
Termmy modded 17*
Comp 910 valve springs
4294 turbo

if i were u settle into a 38r and be done with it turbo wise
def send those rods out and def get matts cam ... i wish i had time to
 
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Old May 8, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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just a question but would a block girdle be a better option than partially filling the block? if the motor is out and the pan is off it would be easy to install or do these not help?
 
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Old May 8, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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forget the cryo rods, studs, springs, cam.. blah blah blah... Why even fill a block?

Fix the oil pan leak, get some stage 1's and leave it alone.
 
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