Notices
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

Advancing Timing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 6, 2011 | 11:38 AM
  #1  
Freaksh0w's Avatar
Freaksh0w
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 774
Likes: 1
From: East Tennessee
Advancing Timing

Now, I don't have a timing light, so let's just get that out of the way, lol.

Ok, My dad gave me a distributor wrench so I could finally get down in there and loosen that bolt. I, for some reason, have lost my 3/8in swivel, and don't really have a whole lot of tools. Bits and pieces because stuff gets stolen, or had been stolen. I finally just started hiding all my stuff. Anyways...

I had read on here that before you turn the distributor, you need to unplug the harness that's on it. Well, in my case with my 5.0 EFI, it won't crank with it unplugged, and it won't run with it unplugged. So, I just bumped my timing up with it plugged in. That's my first question. Is that ok?

I first bumped it too much, I could hear valve chatter at 3000+RPM at wide open throttle. I retarded the timing a little and I think it's in the sweet spot. I run 93 octane fuel anyways. I know it doesn't require it, but it's something about today's gasoline with this 86 5.0 EFI and 87 octane that does not do well. LOTS of hesitation when I first get on the throttle. 93 seemed to cut that down 80%. Well, now with my timing bumped up, it feels so much better. It revs from idle SO much faster. Has a noticeable increase throughout the whole powerband. I hear no valve chatter, and everything feels smooth. Think I'm pretty safe? Considering I run 93 octane, too? I guess there's no way to safely answer this without a timing light, right?

I gotta say, though, my truck always felt so sluggish in the idle - 2000RPM range. Just revving to take off, it felt like it was badly tuned or something. Now it's immediate and quick to rev. And guess what? 0 hesitation now. Zero. When I give it gas at any speed in any gear, no more *throttle* *pause* *thunk* *go*. It's very smooth. Mainly just wanted to share my experience, and if anyone has any advice on things to listen or feel for, please share. Also, if you know anything about me doing this improperly, lemme know.
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2011 | 12:24 PM
  #2  
cadunkle's Avatar
cadunkle
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,295
Likes: 25
From: NJ
Don't be retarded. Buy a timing light and set it properly. Check your initial and total. Initial can safely be in the 12*-16* range if it starts easy. Mechanical advance all in my 2500-3000 RPM, use springs to tweak this rate. You want it as quick as it'll take it without detonation. Total around 34*-38*, adjust this by limiting the size of the holes on the piece the rotor goes on. Timing at cruise with vacuum should be in the 40s.

Edit: On these EFI setups you need to pull the little gray jumper on the drivers fender near the firewall. This stops the computer from advancing things. Not sure how tunable these EFI setups are. I'd guess not very.
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2011 | 01:28 PM
  #3  
Rogue_Wulff's Avatar
Rogue_Wulff
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 8,521
Likes: 16
From: Lost
On the EFI setup, the computer does all the timing advance. I don't believe there is even any form of mechanical advance.
Not sure of the location, but as mentioned, there is a plug that has to be unhooked somewhere in the harness leading to the dist. Unhooking the big plug at the dist, disables the entire ignition system.

Now that you have the base timing set up a bit, try dropping back to 87 octane. I bet you'll find it runs just as good on the cheaper stuff. The only way I would put anything more than the cheap stuff in, would be if the cheap stuff has ethanol and the higher price stuff doesn't. I hate ethanol blended gas, and will avoid buying it whenever possible.
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2011 | 02:50 PM
  #4  
Anafiel's Avatar
Anafiel
Posting Guru
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,509
Likes: 1
From: Wagener, SC
Originally Posted by Freaksh0w
Now, I don't have a timing light, so let's just get that out of the way, lol.
Buy a timing light.

Get to know this site:
Ford Fuel Injection

Buy a code reader.

Everything else is guesswork.
 
Reply
Old May 7, 2011 | 10:48 PM
  #5  
Chiefrider007's Avatar
Chiefrider007
Tuned
20 Year Member
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 345
Likes: 4
From: Southern IL
Most newer models will only bolt up one way, no adjustment and it's not needed. Here's a good "by ear" way to time older models that adjust, but everyone's right, you need a light. After it's running advance the timing a bit and drive it. It's best to put a load on it like up hill. If it starts spark knocking, back it off a little and do it again. If it doesn't, advance it a bit more. Once you reach spark knock and back it off it bet you'll be within three degrees or so.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DIYiT
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
14
Aug 22, 2011 12:15 PM
superbean
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
Jan 17, 2011 12:36 PM
idahofordguy
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
15
Apr 22, 2008 01:39 AM
Seth2Burn
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
49
Sep 23, 2004 07:53 PM
5thwheeler
Computer Chips & Tuners
3
Nov 21, 2003 07:30 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:26 PM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE