. These are all in Buellton, CA
year old vehicle without a warranty.
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Red one: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor Sedan. 1940 "Standards" have a different grille, one taillamp-on the left (drivers) side, one sun visor and etc.
Technically, it's 72 years old, because historically....new vehicles are introduced in September of the previous year.
Black CA plates with yellow letters introduced 1/1/1963. 1963/69 non commercial: If peeps are "in the know," they can tell by the first letter, which DMV office issued the plates.
Examples: I plates were issued in Santa Monica, J plates in Culver City. They also know when certain letters were introduced. So, if one sees a 1965 Muskrat with W plates, they were installed in 1968.
1963/69 black commercial plates have one letter followed by 5 numbers (S 28392).
When these ran out...mid-year 1969, 1970/71 (early 1972) black commercial plates have 5 numbers followed by one letter (28392 S).
Blue non commercial plates with yellow letters introduced in late 1969 as a "running change."
1939 CA plates were blue with yellow letters, were marked CALIFORNIA WORLDS FAIR .. are highly sought after today.
The CA plates used today have been the same size since 1956. 1955 and earlier plates were longer.
Technically, it's 72 years old, because historically....new vehicles are introduced in September of the previous year.
Black CA plates with yellow letters introduced 1/1/1963. 1963/69 non commercial: If peeps are "in the know," they can tell by the first letter, which DMV office issued the plates.
Examples: I plates were issued in Santa Monica, J plates in Culver City. They also know when certain letters were introduced. So, if one sees a 1965 Muskrat with W plates, they were installed in 1968.
1963/69 black commercial plates have one letter followed by 5 numbers (S 28392).
When these ran out...mid-year 1969, 1970/71 (early 1972) black commercial plates have 5 numbers followed by one letter (28392 S).
Blue non commercial plates with yellow letters introduced in late 1969 as a "running change."
1939 CA plates were blue with yellow letters, were marked CALIFORNIA WORLDS FAIR .. are highly sought after today.
The CA plates used today have been the same size since 1956. 1955 and earlier plates were longer.
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No such thing as a 2 door, correct Ford terminology: Tudor Sedan, Fordor Sedan for 4 doors, and Coupe' (cou-pay) with small quarter windows. Coops are for chickens.
Original new car warranty: 90 days or 4,000 miles...whichever occurred first.
Back then, typical used car warranty: 90 days or 4,000 seconds or inches, whichever occurred first. In other words, there wasn't one.
Some dealers would tell customers when they asked about a warranty: "You used it up on the test drive."
Back then, the largest used car dealer in the world was Kelley Kar Company, located on Figueroa Street in downtown LA. Figueroa was LA's 'Auto Row' for many years.
Les Kelley was the founder of Kelley Blue Books and after WWII, came up with the idea of using VIN's to register the entire vehicle.
Pelton Dodge and Howard Automobile Company (CA Buick distributor), were located where Staples Center is today.
Excepting Kaiser Brothers at Venice & Fig (now Honda, prior Oldsmobile, prior Oakland), today's Auto Row...what's left of it...is south of Washington Blvd.
At one time, every make of auto imaginable, excepting Cadillac (Don Lee 7th & Bixel), Packard (Earle C. Anthony Inc. 1000 S. Hope St), and Chrysler-Plymouth (Greer-Robbins Flower & Pico) had showrooms on Figueroa.
Original new car warranty: 90 days or 4,000 miles...whichever occurred first.
Back then, typical used car warranty: 90 days or 4,000 seconds or inches, whichever occurred first. In other words, there wasn't one.
Some dealers would tell customers when they asked about a warranty: "You used it up on the test drive."
Back then, the largest used car dealer in the world was Kelley Kar Company, located on Figueroa Street in downtown LA. Figueroa was LA's 'Auto Row' for many years.
Les Kelley was the founder of Kelley Blue Books and after WWII, came up with the idea of using VIN's to register the entire vehicle.
Pelton Dodge and Howard Automobile Company (CA Buick distributor), were located where Staples Center is today.
Excepting Kaiser Brothers at Venice & Fig (now Honda, prior Oldsmobile, prior Oakland), today's Auto Row...what's left of it...is south of Washington Blvd.
At one time, every make of auto imaginable, excepting Cadillac (Don Lee 7th & Bixel), Packard (Earle C. Anthony Inc. 1000 S. Hope St), and Chrysler-Plymouth (Greer-Robbins Flower & Pico) had showrooms on Figueroa.
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Correctamundo, but the Tudor has longer quarter windows than a Coupe' .. so that's the difference between one and t'other.
Wanna know where the former Fresno Packard Dealer was? On Blackstone...Stanislaus Motors, changed to Mercedes-Benz after Packard folded the tent.
In 1975, I bought their remaining inventory of Packard parts. Bought all of McAuley Motors obsolete parts (Packard, then Studebaker, then Edsel, then L/M [now just Lincoln]) in Merced in 1979.
And...former Packard Dealers obsolete parts in Santa Barbara, Watsonville, Monterey, Oakland, San Francisco, Daly City, Woodland, Arbuckle, Chico.
1967/85: Bought out over 300 Ford and Lincoln/Mercury dealers stocks of obsolete parts, mostly in CA
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
and Coupe' (cou-pay) with small quarter windows. Coops are for chickens.
In 1975, I bought their remaining inventory of Packard parts. Bought all of McAuley Motors obsolete parts (Packard, then Studebaker, then Edsel, then L/M [now just Lincoln]) in Merced in 1979.
And...former Packard Dealers obsolete parts in Santa Barbara, Watsonville, Monterey, Oakland, San Francisco, Daly City, Woodland, Arbuckle, Chico.
1967/85: Bought out over 300 Ford and Lincoln/Mercury dealers stocks of obsolete parts, mostly in CA
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How many doors does a Coupe' have?
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2, I thought I made that clear in post #38 > >
Y'all aren't gonna stump me on old rolling piles of misery, regardless of what makes/years the piles are.
Been in this hobby longer than most of y'all have been extant, owned 337 vehicles since 1956, learned to drive when I was 7.
Been involved in one way or t'other in the autobiz, since I was weaned.
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No such thing as a 2 door, correct Ford terminoogy: Tudor Sedan.
Been in this hobby longer than most of y'all have been extant, owned 337 vehicles since 1956, learned to drive when I was 7.
Been involved in one way or t'other in the autobiz, since I was weaned.
