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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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Explorer with gremlins

I have a 96 explorer with a 4.0l 4x4. I've been replacing a lot of parts to pass our state inspection and unfortunately, more problems have been creeping in as I fix others. I started with P0401, p0305, p0171 and sometimes p0113 and p0174. I replaced the plugs and wires, the DPFE sensor, cleaned the MAF, replaced the vacuum lines to the DPFE sensor due to some cracking and installed a wire tie on the IAT connection because the clip had broken off and replaced the fuel filter. At the same time I installed new inner tie rods and upper control arm on the passenger side and shackles on the leaf springs. I cleared the codes and took it for a test drive of about a half mile, when I returned and parked in the driveway, the water pump started leaking. I replaced the pump, topped off the coolant and warmed it up with no issues. Took it for a 45 min drive to return the fan clutch tool and a p0171 showed up, but ran fine otherwise. When my girlfriend took it to work, it started misfiring and blowing smoke. It now has codes p0304 p0305 p0306 p0171 and p0174. I know what obd2 says they mean, misfires on 4 5 & 6 and lean on banks 1 & 2. But does anyone know where I can start to fix them?
As far as conditions on it now, when I got to her work to take a look, I didn't see anything obviously disconnected like vacuum lines or plug wires. The alternator seems to a little noisier than I recall from earlier today and there's a small puf-puf-puf (best imitation of a exhaust? leak) coming from the passenger side.
I had her towed home and she's sitting in the driveway, waiting for me to get a clue on where to start.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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The both banks is showing misfires, did you disturb the intake manifold,

A manifold leak will cause the misfires (lean) and throw the intake leak codes..

Any upstream exhaust leak will trigger O2 to lean and ECM/CPM will flood fuel to compensate...
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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Not that I'm aware of. The only engine bolts I touched were the 3 on the alternator bracket and the 12 on the pump.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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Check the breather tube from the passenger oil fill to the intake tube between air box and throttle body.

You have created an illegal air leak somewhere... Philip
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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I pulled it off and looked to see if somehow a crack or leak had gotten by me before, but I didn't find anything out of the ordinary with it. That being said, it was raining sideways when I was checking it out, so I'll be more in depth tomorrow.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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An update on the explorer:
I replaced all the intake gaskets and injector o rings and put it back together. Unfortunately nothing changed. The #5 plug was a wet and the intake to it was oily/wet so I'm thinking either the head or the head gasket is my problem.
Autozone and Advance sell reman's for about $250, so unless I find a totally shot gasket I think i'm just replacing the head.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chogidog
An update on the explorer:
I replaced all the intake gaskets and injector o rings and put it back together. Unfortunately nothing changed. The #5 plug was a wet and the intake to it was oily/wet so I'm thinking either the head or the head gasket is my problem.
Autozone and Advance sell reman's for about $250, so unless I find a totally shot gasket I think i'm just replacing the head.
You are getting ahead of your self...

If the intake runner is wet, that is before the head..
Check your PCV....
#5 was wet with what?? Fuel, water??
 
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by aquanaut20
You are getting ahead of your self...

If the intake runner is wet, that is before the head..
Check your PCV....
#5 was wet with what?? Fuel, water??
Both actually.
There is also a watery oil mix coating the #5 passage up into the upper intake.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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Is your exhaust manifold cracked? If you moved your plug wires from the factory routing , you can get a missfire. But your missfire sounds more serious than that. did you get your DPFE hoses reversed?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gpedens
Is your exhaust manifold cracked? If you moved your plug wires from the factory routing , you can get a missfire. But your missfire sounds more serious than that. did you get your DPFE hoses reversed?
The only exhaust leek I'm aware of is at the joint after the cat.

I tried to follow the original routing of the wires, but it's possible they could be slightly off as the run behind the upper intake.

Nope, the DPFE lines are correct.

A little more info I pieced together today:
After I replaced the intake gaskets I had the radiator uncapped as I topped the water off with the engine running. The exhaust smoke let up and it seemed to be running better. So I did an oil change because a small amount of coolant did drip down when I originally pulled the lower intake and I didn't like the white coating I had seen on the intake. After the OC, I closed up the rad cap and as it warmed and the pressure rose, the smoke got worse and it started missing on #5 again. I shut it off and pulled the plug and it was soaked with water and gas.
When I pulled the upper intake after that, The #5 channel was again coated with white.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 06:46 AM
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Sounds like coolant is leaking into your intake. Do a pressure test on your coolant system.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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Did you remove or replace your thermostat when you were replacing your water pump? If so make sure you didnt install your t-stat backwards or upside down.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gpedens
Sounds like coolant is leaking into your intake. Do a pressure test on your coolant system.
The only spot in the lower intake that has the coolant is the front section, correct? I don't believe there are any passages through the intake.

How would it get into just the #5 through the intake? I was thinking head/headgasket and after the plug fouls that it was just working its way up backwards.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gpedens
Did you remove or replace your thermostat when you were replacing your water pump? If so make sure you didnt install your t-stat backwards or upside down.
Nope, no thermostat work. Not this time anyway. Did it a while ago and haven't had any issues.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Another update:
I pulled the drivers side head and I was right. The block side of the gasket had failed on the water jacket hole at about 11 o'clock above #5. The cylinder was full of coolant when I opened it up.
A bit of running around to get a new gasket and a couple other parts and hopefully the rain will be goon tomorrow and I can get it back together.
 
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