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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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1950 door allinment issues

Hi guys I almost have my 1950 ford on the road and their is a small item on the out of province inspection that my truck will fail on. It is the stupid doors it looks like some farmer in the back forty of Saskatchewan has welded the hinges on how am i going to fix this problem? I should of mocked these up better before i have painted it.Will I grind the welds loosen the 3 screws in each hinge and tap with a mallet until i get the door allined. and try to touch up the paint?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 12:04 PM
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The hinges were welded from the factory, just small maybe 1/2" welds. You'll have to cut them to adjust the door. The hardest part might be getting the bolts out. I usually use a torch to heat them but that's not going to work too good if you have the truck repainted. I have also used a hand impact wrench, the type that you hit with a hammer, to get them out. Get behind the pillar and soak the bolts good with some kind of penetrating oil.



 
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Before you try to loosen the screws get a small wire brush the kind you use with a drill and brush the rust and crud off the threads the best you can, then use oil. I used an air chisle rigged up a 1/4 inch drive extension with a little cheater bar welded to it [ or vise grips] and used a big philips head bit. be careful they will brake off. I had three brake off, with the hinge off I had just enough thread showing to weld a nut to them and got them out
 
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 02:35 PM
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Before you try to loosen the screws get a small wire brush the kind you use with a drill and brush the rust and crud off the threads the best you can, then use oil. I used an air chisle rigged up a 1/4 inch drive extension with a little cheater bar welded to it [ or vise grips] and used a big philips head bit. be careful they will brake off. I had three brake off, with the hinge off I had just enough thread showing to weld a nut to them and got them out
OKguys I have tried to get the bolts off but i needed to drill them out are their any options as what kind of bolts i can use.I live in the middle of nowhare here in the Rockey mountains could i use gutter colts or carriage?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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The bolts are 5/16" fine thread bevel head with a phillips head, which you already know. They are next to impossible to find. I bought a bunch, enough for all four doors in my panel truck, from John's Fun Hundred almost ten years ago. I think there are other places to find them. Your best bet is either go to John's or do a search of this forum. There have many posts about the door bolts and a few member have found them other places. I know McMaster and Fastenal don't carry anything close, at least the last time I've checked their web site.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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Thanks everyone, I have drilled the old bolts and got the torch out with the backing plate on the bench vise. I managed to heat up the fine thread studs and re-tap to a coarse thread i have regular bolts in now with no washers to tie me over until my napa here can order me some coarse countersink bolts thank you guys for your diagrams and input because i could not have done this without you. cheers
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 02:32 AM
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Moe I will get pictures to post evryone soon. \\\\\\as i have been tied up in the garage with my old 50 so as soon as i learn how and get time i will start a new thread. thanks
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Bobj, I found allen bolts for my doors at an old hardware store, the kind with a bunch of old guys behind the counter that greet you when you walk in. I showed him the bolts and he said, "old ford, huh"? The supplier they used is a current company, don't remember the name, but these were new stock not left overs.
 
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Yeah, bolts that fit the door hinges are fairly easy to find, it's finding ones like the originals that are hard to find. My trucks aren't 100% stock, I don't have the $$ or patience to do it, but I didn't want the allen head bolts in the doors, to me it's way too noticeable place to not have original phillips head bolts. The ones I did buy do have the phillips head but they have a flat head, not slightly rounded like the originals but they're pretty close.

I did go with allen head bolts to hold the body of my panel truck to the chassis. The originals had a square hole in them, like the original bolts used in the pickup boxes. I used the allen head bolts for two reasons, one finding originals wasn't an option, as far as I know no one sells them. Second, I didn't like the square heads. You have to make a special tool out of a 3/8" drive extension to fit the square hole and I broke the extension a couple of times removing the bolts and had to regrind the tool. An allen head socket made short work of installing the new bolts. From a very short distance you can't tell I used the non-stock bolts, the rounded heads of the allen head bolts have the same profile as the stock bolts.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:23 AM
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Yeah I think I am going to go the allen head bolt route. As my truck is no original and I live in the middle of no ware getting the proper bolts is no option for me i guess i have to settle for a little bit of air brushing on the allen bolts.lol
 
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