Am I correct in assuming that I will need to use the perches from a 70s 1/2 ton with a 460 in it to mount the 460 I want to build up for my 65?

Did some searching around and some say yes, some say no. Another wrinkle is that my 460 came from a Lincoln. Is there a big difference or something? I emailed TransDapt about their swap kit because its for Ford motors only, not for Lincolns. They said the mounting locations are different.

I would just as soon not have to fab mounts up for the motor and just use stock perches and mounts from a 70's truck.

My last concern is the C6. Will it clear the tranny tunnel in my 65 using the 70's perches? I have the original cross member for the 3 speed in the truck still. Fabbing a new crossmember isnt a big deal, but if not needed, I dont want to.

Unless Im way off, I need the motor to sit parallel to the frame correct?

Just some problems I need to have nailed down before I blast and POR15 the frame. Best to do it all at once. Do it once, the right way.

Some links:
Assuming this is the correct motor mount to replace the rotted stock one:
Anchor 2502 - Engine Mount | O'Reilly Auto Parts
And for the C6:
Anchor 2349 - Manual Transmission Mount | O'Reilly Auto Parts
These are from a 79 F150 2wd w/ 460.

Thanks for the help!

 

My uncle and I put a 460 in his 65 about ten years ago. We used the small block V-8 perches. He did have to move the location of where they went. He also used the cars front sump oil pan. His motor sits about an inch to an inch and a half higher, but he has had no major issues. The biggest problem is that he can not run a regular shroud on his radiator. He had to switch to an electric fan. Since the motor sits higher, the fan blades made contact with his upper radiator hose. I believe we used the car mounts and drilled through the sides of the engine perches to bolt the motor down. We had zero issues with the c6.

Look for the 78,79 ford 2wd trucks. They had factory 460 engines. I have one and offered it to my uncle when he recently put a new 460 back in. He refused and went back the way it was.

 

Yes, and those from an F-250 will work as well '73 - '79. They bolt right to a '65/'66 frame, the holes are already there. Ford put them in light trucks starting in '73.
You need to be aware that the motor mounts are in 3 pieces on each side. One is the cup that bolts to the block, one is the middle rubber insulator you see at auto parts stores, and the third bolts to the frame. These are cross-bolted. You should not attempt to use any mounting method other than the factory one. Ford designed the cross-bolted system for a reason. The 460 generates so much torque that it is possible to rip other mounts apart so that you end up with your fan blade for a hood ornament.
Technically, all 460s prior to 1980 are are Lincoln engines - the casting codes have a "V" in the third position indicating the Lincoln Division. All '73 - '79 light trucks, with the possible exceptions of a few late '79 ones or so, will have the "V" Lincoln designator. In '79 or '80 the 460 was reassigned a "T" designation in the third position for Truck Division, even though '78 was the last year Ford and Lincoln put them in cars.
The confusion about a Lincoln or a Ford 460 lies in the last MEL engine made by Lincoln, the 462, and people often confuse the two. THey are not the same, and have nothing whatsoever in common. The MEL was last used in '67, and for '68, the 385 engines were introduced.
As long as you have a 460 made '68 or later, it will be fine.
Also be advised that the 460 accessories setups for some Lincolns and T-birds may not fit in a truck, as they sit down low and wide. It depends on the application. You can use your original cross member, although you may need to set it back a bit, but that is easy enough to drill a new hole or two. If your transmission has reinforcing ribs along the back, it may be necessary to take them down a bit.

 

Thanks for the heads up guys. Right now it has the original 352 FE perches in it. They worked fine with the 302 that was in the truck.

The motor is a 73, but I will look up the numbers on the motor to ensure Im on the right track.

I will need to dig thru some bone yards in the near future. Need the perches, mounts, and spindles for disk brakes for the front. With any luck I can pull them all from the same truck.

 

D9TE-6015-AB 460 bare block casting number. This engine was introduced in 1979 and uses a weighted spacer, prior 460s did not.

The flywheel and harmonic balancer are different than used in the D1VE-6015-AB blocks, which also were used in 1979 F100/350 & Econolines.

Since the D9TE engine was a running change in 1979, there are no before/from certain serial numbers or production date changes. If one needs specific parts, the block casting number must be known.

btw: Do not assume the D1VE blocks are 460's only, because 1971/73 429's (installed in Ford/Merc Passenger Cars) also used these blocks. The bore is the same, the stroke is not.

 

Thanks for the heads up Bill. Just finally learning how the Ford numbers work after all these years, heh.

 

Bill question about the 460 in question. I had my Dad take a look at my motor to find some casting numbers as its at his house an hour away. He couldnt find the ones on the heads, but did find the ones on the block and intake.

He found:
D5VE-9425-A3 on intake
D1VE-6015-A2B on block

Is it safe to assume that due to the D5 on the intake I probably have a 1975 460 motor?

Thanks
Corey

 

D1VE-6015-A2B is a mid-late 70's 460 bare block, 1975/78 and some 1979's. I know this because there were also block casting numbers of D1VE-6015-AB and A1B.

The D5VE intake manifold was used 1975/78.

 

Thanks alot. Saved me some guesswork!