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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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No,they didn't.out of warranty and the egr cooler cost me 2600 to do.the tech said the spread wasn't to bad,so instead of a 3400 dollar bill I opted for the latter.I should've deleted it,but I wasn't sure what was wrong.that was two years ago.so now I'm at this point,and if worse comes to worse,which it probably will,ill do the oil cooler rebuild,or replace.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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well 13 degree spread isnt to bad maybe you can clean it out with vc-9

I followed cheezits post on a coolant flush got it clean
 
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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I hope so.gonna get at it real soon and see what happens.think ill do the t stat out flush,seems easier and less time consuming.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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I tried it both ways with the thermistate in and with it out. pulling it out got it way cleaner

I dont think it ciculates the vc-9 enough with the thermistate in
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 09:14 AM
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I have a quick question. My temps vary a good bit while I'm driving, but normally my EOTs run between 189-202 with no load (depending on how aggressive I drive that day) and my ECTs normally stay in the 180s but do get in the mid to upper 90s when my EOT hits 200+. But is this generally too low? On the interstate they both run high 90s to low 200s. Just curious if my t-stat may need to be replaced.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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i dont think id touch it yet.mines sticking open,so itll go up to 178 and fall to 168 and hover about 172-175.yours sounds about right to me, and the spread sounds good to.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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i dont think id touch it yet.mines sticking open,so itll go up to 178 and fall to 168 and hover about 172-175.yours sounds about right to me, and the spread sounds good to.
Thanks man.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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Just got my insight CTS last week. Drove the beast down to Lake of the Ozarks last weekend and saw EOT as high as 220 and ECT200. Most of the time the spread was 17-18 degress. Called the dealer on Monday and they claim this is a normal spread and weren't concerned about 220 EOT. He also said my check engine light would let me know if I had a problem!!!!! Im worried ive got an oil cooler problem in the making. Think i should take it elsewhere and have it replaced?
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ducky
Just got my insight CTS last week. Drove the beast down to Lake of the Ozarks last weekend and saw EOT as high as 220 and ECT200. Most of the time the spread was 17-18 degress. Called the dealer on Monday and they claim this is a normal spread and weren't concerned about 220 EOT. He also said my check engine light would let me know if I had a problem!!!!! Im worried ive got an oil cooler problem in the making. Think i should take it elsewhere and have it replaced?
My understanding is Ford set the 15* difference on the EOT-ECT so when they say 17-18* is normal something is wrong, i would be looking for a different dealer. The check engine light comes on when it is trying to save itself. You need to do a coolant flush and remove the Ford Gold junk it can't take the heat because the silicates drop out and the first stop is the oil cooler. Looks like most here love this stuff but it is a killer when it come to these motors. My temps run ECT 192* EOT 194-196* and the highest i have ever seen is ECT 218* EOT 228* pulling my 14k 5er 6mi up a 6% grade and 95* outside, so do a flush and install ELC coolant CAT EC-1 Rated if interested here is the flush


Flushing and cleaning the 6.0



Restore is for cleaning out any silicate goo. VC-9 is for cleaning out iron and scale. Restore Plus is the same as VC-9 and cheaper.

To flush drain the coolant by removing the lower radiator hose from the radiator, and removing the drain plug from the driver side of the block. There is a drain plug on the passenger side also but you have to remove the starter to get to it. I don't bother with that one. You can skip the block drains if you want except for the final drain before adding fresh coolant. You will just have to flush a few more times to get the block clear.

I also highly recommend you pull the thermostat out on your first drain and put the housing back without the thermostat. It only takes about 10 minutes and will save you 2.5 hrs or so in doing this whole procedure.

Ok now put the lower hose back on and the drain plug back in the block if you removed it. This is the procedure you will use each time to drain the system, except you will not touch the thermostat again until you're finished the whole procedure. Make sure that you set your heater to high while doing this to flush out the heater core as well.

Fill the cooling system with tap water, start the truck and let the water circulate for 5 minutes. (if you did not remove the thermostat you must run the truck until the thermostat opens + 5 minutes to circulate. This takes 15 to 20 minutes each cycle and is why you should just remove the thermostat) Stop the engine. Drain the system and repeat the flush.

Now add at least 1/2 gallon of Restore and fill with tap water. Drive truck or run on high idle for 60-90 minutes. Drain and flush 3 or 4 times.

Add 2qts VC-9 or 1/2gal of Restore Plus, top with tap water, and drive the truck or run on high idle for 60-90 minutes. Now drain and flush until flush water comes out clear and clean. When you get clean flush water, flush 3 more times using distilled water if you are draining the block or 5 times if not. This is to replace any tap water in the cooling system with distilled water and very important.

After your final distilled water drain it is time to put the thermostat back in. I recommend you install a new thermostat at this point. They are only $20 or so and it is good maintenance procedure to do so. Fill with 3.5 or 4 gals of ELC concentrated coolant and top off with distilled water. Drive the truck or let run for a while topping off with distilled water. Check the truck over the next few days and top up as required while any air left in the system works its way out.

Keep some 50/50 ELC on hand to use to top off the cooling system from here out and you are good to go.

new t/stat from Ford it should all come together (housing-t/stat-o-ring) in a box. The part number is RT-1169

Here is the Restore Product from Cummins dealer
http://www.fleetguard.com/pdfs/product_lit/emea_brochures/LI33024-GB.pdf
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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dieselpop goodwriteup thanks for the links
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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how much for the restore plus
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Can't remember one is around $28 and the other $32 but you must use the Restore first this removes all the slim and goo then the Restore+ this removes the minerals sometimes it will take up to 32+ gallons of distilled water about .62 cents a gallon.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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Iv been running soft water from the house with all the casting sand and junk figured the type of water wasnt to big a deal but am getting ready to change the oil cooler maybe ill switch back
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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Iv been running soft water from the house with all the casting sand and junk figured the type of water wasnt to big a deal but am getting ready to change the oil cooler maybe ill switch back
You say you are getting ready to change the oil cooler are you going to change out the egr cooler or delete and what does the coolant filter look like when it comes to the sand.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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I have the 03 and there have been very few of those egr coolers blow I may just use a sneaky pipe or something op said to weld it IDK its still good

as far as the coolant filter I have had 1 plug when I cut it open there was a little casting sand but not what I thought I would find
 
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