I am looking for any information, good or bad, about the following tires:

BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO
Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor
Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2

I have read all the info on the Nitto and Toyo's and know they are good, just want info on these. All 3 score well at Tire Rack, just want to see if anyone has these.

Also, I asked this question in a reply to another thread but will put it here also. What is the largest size tire that will work on the F-250 without any modifications. Currently have 18" wheels but are considering 20". Pictures if you have them.

Thanks.

 

I have both the BFG's Mud terrain and A/T's. They have both been fantastic tires with really good tread life. I would gladly pay the $325+ price tag for the A/T's if they made them in a 295/65/20. I contacted BFG and they indicated no plans to make this size.

 

Stay 35" or shorter and you should be fine on your stock truck.

The superduties are heavy trucks and most of the ratings on TireRack are from Toyota and F150 users. So much lighter trucks with less torque.

You will notice almost none of the tire manufactures offer any kind of tread life warranty on Load Range E tires that fit our trucks. I've put 400,000 miles on superduties over the last 10 years and usually get around 28,000 to 30,000 mile per set of tires. I tow a lot and know that affects the wear more than folks who run around empty. I have not tried the BF Goodrich and may try them on this truck to see if they do any better mileage wise.

The last set of tires on my 2006 were the Goodyear Silent Armour. They were great in the snow, rode nice and I was very pleased with them. But I had 2 of the 4 tires fail at 16,000 miles in the summer heat. They developed large bulges in the side of the tires. Tire dealer said I was overloading the tires. But I was towing the same loads that I had for years with other brands. I really think it was a flaw in the tires that just failed in the summer 100* heat. They Pro-Rated the tires and gave me a replacement for about 1/2 the cost of new tires. Other than the failures, I was very pleased with those tires. And if I bought them again, I'd probably pay for the road hazard warranty for free replacement. Knowing that they have a tendency to fail under heavy loads in summer heat.

 

I had Revo on my old gasser F350, they did well for the 15000 miles i used them before tradeing it. Not a heavy diesel, did have balancing issues issues. BFGs on this diesel only lasted 25000 miles worn to the carcass. Probably tosoft, had to rotate every 5000 km which is lots, goodtraction in winter but they wore fast towing, diesel torque wears em fast too. So, on the whole of it, if you need winter traction and are goiing with one type tire all year, they are pretty good. But, if you tow a lot, heat, heavy, they will wear fast. When you rotate, makesure they are rebalanced while youare atit, buy them they should include this free. I am currently trying yokohama geolander ats, they have a 50000 mile warranty, lots of siping, did well this winter, what remains to be seen is how they do towing for wear. No balancing issues so far, at 7500 km and will rotate but barely noticeable its necessary. They were notquite as good in winter as the bfg but they apear to be wearing better and lasting longer. I think the harder compound willl do betterthis summer towing. I am running 285/65*18 whichis about a 33 inch tire. I believe they also have a 295/70*18 which is a bit bigger. The price i paid was the same as the bfgs, with warrenty and free rotations, flats ect.

 

Could you post a picture of your truck. Trying to get an idea on how that size looks with the 18" wheels.

I do not do too much heavy towing, but how they are in the snow is important to me seeing I'm in Buffalo.

Thanks for the info.

 

I am running Cooper discovery STT's on mine. Have well over 30K on them. Load range E as well. They don't hold the heat while towing either.

 

Sure, will try nd click a ofew picks tomorow. They fill out well, but 295s would be better. Problem is rim is not wide enough IMO. They are good in snow, not as hpgood as a soft true siped winter, but good. I run 4*4 a lot in winter just for ****s nd giggles.

 

That is the freakiest thing I've ever seen a tire do. You are one forgiving guy though. I don't think I'd take another set of those for free. I know I'm over reacting but wow, the thought of a failure at freeway speeds with a heavy trailer makes me shudder. Great photo.

 

I had one go bad, Replaced it and rotated tires front to rear and a week later a second one did the same thing. Both were on the rear when they failed. The dealer was just insistant that I was overloading the tires or that I had hits something on the road that had bruised the sidewall. I had to explain that I've been pulling the same trailer for years and worn out the original Conti's and two sets of Toyo's prior to buying the Goodyears and None of them had any sidewall issues with that same trailer.

I've been across enough scales to know exactly how much weight is on each axle and I'm nowhere near maxed out. I really suspect it was the summer heat that caused the problem under load.

When my Michelins are worn out, I'll shop around and see whats available. Not a lot of choices in the 20". I'd like to plus size one size and the Goodyear and Goodrich are two of the companies that offer a 285/65/20 that still use a stock 8" wide rim as their recommended wheel width.

And Epic, we'll see how well your muddiers are holding up, If you are getting good mileage out of them, Maybe I'll try a set of them.

 

I had a Wrangler Duratrac make the same kind of bubble as that pic of the Silent Armor. Only reason I caught it is because I typically do my own tire rotations, and, the bubble was on the inside tire wall. It scared me a little....

I'm also eying the tires that Epic has. The noise and the 65psi scare me though. Don't know why, just seems like 80psi is more appropriate for these trucks with a 12K trailer in tow.

I have run the REVO line on my wife's Expedition and previous GM trucks we used to have. They are great tires for sure. Just hard to get. High demand and no inventory is my usual experience with them.

 

Hi cford, check out my profile, i added some pics of the yokohama geolanders on my sd. They are in the garage, hope perspective is good enough. Something i forgot, my spare is same size, bigger wont fit inthe spareholder, especially if you upgrade exhaust.

 

I have had the BF Goodrich and the Revo's. If you use the tires off the road at all, avoid the BF Goodrich, especially in any rocks. I had two BF Goodrich rugged trail's fail as rocks tore a hole the sidewalls. I loved my Revo's but they have gotten very pricey in my tire size. The Revos were excellent in the wet as well as snow. I am looking at the Goodyear DuraTrac's now, but have not bought them yet.

 

So far so good. 13,000 miles and they have at least 2/3rds left. I usually only go two years on any set of tires just because I'm kind of tire paranoid.

I'm totally over the 65psi worry. I pulled almost 18K to Moab, Utah and back last week without problem. Tires were flawless and the MT part of the equation got me through two patches of sand that stopped my AT's on the Excursion two years before.

I had the TireTraker system on which monitored pressure and temperature for every tire on truck and trailer. I was amazed to see the pressure fluctuations during the trip. As temps approached 90 degrees at the valve stem, pressure was over 75 psi. YIKES! So I wonder if this is normal and apparently it is according the FAQ's on Toyo's website. Pressures regularly change between 10 - 20 percent and sometimes more in high heat situations.

So here's where my head is on the 65 psi thing: there's no need to worry about load capacity as evidenced by the E rating and I get all the benefits of a more comfortable ride even at max pressure. The noise question is too subjective to rely on anyone's particular opinion. I kind of like the sound. It's there when I listen for it and not noticeable when driving normally. There's no question the MT's are AWESOME off road. Sand and rocks on steep hills are no problem. There is no way the AT's would have performed as well.

Here they are still uncleaned from the trip:



Notice the little bit of rub on the control arm due to the size of the tire:



The only other tire I am remotely interested in now is the BFG MT KM2's. They look awesome as well.

 

Take a look at the Goodyear MTR's. These are amazing off-road and are tougher than the BFG's.