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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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I have noticed on the site that many people recommend getting guages for the 6.0. My question is what gauges specifically and exactly what reason do I need them? I have the '06 F250 FYI...Thank yall...

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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/3...ch-folder.html

Start reading the tech folder. All explained there.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Although, I haven't looked through the tech folder in some time (I know I need to take my own advise and look through it more often), i'm pretty sure there isn't really anything in there specific to gauges.

So to the OP. You need/should have gauges to monitor your trucks health. These trucks, along with most others on the market, don't have real gauges for you to be able to keep an eye on how your truck is doing. The factory gauges that you have in the dash (ie ECT, Trans temp, and oil PSI) are more like glorified idiot lights. By the time they actually start to move off the normal mark you are probably already too hot. Then there's things like EOT to ECT difference monitering that is not posible to due without gauges. Basicly without gauges you can't catch problems before you are stranded on the side of the roads, and it makes it much more difficult to diagnose problems.

The gauges I would recomend would depend on what you are doing with the truck, and what year you have. without knowing those I would recomend ECT, EOT, fuel pressure, and Trans temp at a minimum.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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scangaugeII is well worth it for the 160.00 or whatever you get alot
theres even some ficm stuff eot.ect,icp,ipr,tranny temp,boost,map,volt
and thats just a few
theres alot more gauges than what is even list on the scangauge site
for the money I love mine

and its plug and play
plug it into obdII port and you have gauges

try this
ScanGaugeII - Trip Computers + Digital Gauges + Scan Tool
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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Just to add to what Texans wrote, the ScanGuageII is able to monitor
a large number of sensors (see other "xgauge" threads about additional scanguageII codes that are being figured out).

The "only" values not available via the ODBII port that are of interest:
* Fuel pressure (FP) (highly recommended, low FP can damage injectors)
* Oil Pressure
* Exhaust Gas Temp (EGT)
* Turbo Boost (BST) (see other xgauge threads to calculate this)

You have to add the sensors to monitor the above sensors which
are NOT available via the ODBII port.

scangaugeII doesn't support external sensors, so you'd have
buy/install separate gauges connected to these sensors to
monitor their values.

Some Edge brand ODBII readers can support connecting "some"
external sensors, so that would avoid the cost of the gauges, but
the Edge costs more too.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by texans
Although, I haven't looked through the tech folder in some time (I know I need to take my own advise and look through it more often), i'm pretty sure there isn't really anything in there specific to gauges.

So to the OP. You need/should have gauges to monitor your trucks health. These trucks, along with most others on the market, don't have real gauges for you to be able to keep an eye on how your truck is doing. The factory gauges that you have in the dash (ie ECT, Trans temp, and oil PSI) are more like glorified idiot lights. By the time they actually start to move off the normal mark you are probably already too hot. Then there's things like EOT to ECT difference monitering that is not posible to due without gauges. Basicly without gauges you can't catch problems before you are stranded on the side of the roads, and it makes it much more difficult to diagnose problems.

The gauges I would recomend would depend on what you are doing with the truck, and what year you have. without knowing those I would recomend ECT, EOT, fuel pressure, and Trans temp at a minimum.
I have the 2006 F250...and the truck is mainly a crusier to be honest. One day I plan to go off-roading, but for now, just hoggin around town...preparing to take a couple road trips in it.

Also, I am looking to add a subwoofer, just wondering how you have your 2 12s setup in the truck?

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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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By the way, what is "EOT"? And the truck currently has Oil temp, coolant temp, tranny temp, and fuel level on the stock dash...
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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EOT is Engine Oil Temp. The stock gauges are basically dummy lights and pretty much useless. For example, the oil pressure gauge will read in the middle for anything above 7 psi and 0 for anything under 7 psi.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GeneLaw1

Also, I am looking to add a subwoofer, just wondering how you have your 2 12s setup in the truck?

Cheers,
the rear seat has been moved forward a little and bolted back down and the 12s are in custom box the amps are under the rear seat
it would be better if I found a sub box that was designed by computer with ports in the proper place and depth
the bass hits hard but I think it could hit harder with some upgrades

want to upgrade to a fosgate mono amp and high output alt
as I crank it I can watch the voltage drop
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GeneLaw1
By the way, what is "EOT"? And the truck currently has Oil temp, coolant temp, tranny temp, and fuel level on the stock dash...
as someone already stated EOT=engine oil temp. Witch is very important to monitor with these trucks, and unless you have a one of a kind truck you don't have EOT in the stock dash. The oil gauge you have is Low Side Oil Pressure.
What you should have in your dash is Low side Oil pressure, Coolant Temp, Tranny Temp, Fuel Level, and Turbo Boost, and as I stated before they are useless. The boost gauge is farily accurate, but other than that the rest are idiot lights. For example once my ECT got all the way up to 240* (normal temp being 190*) I saw this on my analog gauge and got out of it. Looked down at the stock gauge and it was barely off of normal, and nowhere near the red marks. The same things can be seen with the trans temp. also there is another side to this as well. With the stock gauges you can't tell if the temps are climbing too fast. Like a tranny can have problems that will cause it to get to operating temps really fast. If you had a real gauge that is somthing you can catch.

With your truck being stock right now I would still stick with the gauges I recomended before. I wouldn't worry about EGT's if you are not running a programmer. If you were to go with some sort of OBDII gauge I would recomend either the Edge CTS, or the Dashdaq. The scangauge is a nice option as well, I just think the other two are much better. It all depends on how much you want to spend.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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Gene I just hooked up the Edge Insight it's a 15 min install and gives up to 6 different reading's at a time. Tex is right about the dash gauges. I can see 30 degree temp diff in coolant while the truck is warming to normal temps and the idiot gauge wont move. It's a cheap price for piece of mind.

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