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Lead Driver
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From: **** hole San Jose ca.
It looks like you have your electric choke hot lead hooked to your coil hot wire. if it is that's not the place to put it. I believe it hooks to the field wire going to the regulator. orich
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From: Orlando, Fl
I got the choke hooked up to the fuse box......my timing shouldn't be off unless its the chain?
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I'm talking ignition timing, not cam timing. Did you change the intake without removing the distributor?
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If there's no sideways slop in your dizzie shaft/rotor, and not much back and forth play and you want to check the timing set, pull the fuel pump and put a light in there and have a look while someone turns the nut on the crank pulley over with the plugs out. If its toast, you'll see it. If it has more than 100K on it, that's a likely suspect. If it was running okay before you rebundled the wires...starting every time, running right, etc., I'd back up and recheck everything. All it needs to run is fire, fuel and air at the right time.
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From: Orlando, Fl
Re went through any wiring i touched, didn't find anything, but most of the wiring is brittle and corroded....turned the distributor both ways while cranking with no effect...with the test light on the (-) side of the coil while turning it over it only flashes once?
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For a 302 make sure you use firing order 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8. Firing order 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 is for 351W/351M and 400 engines. Distributor cap will only fit on distributor one way and most caps, but not all, have number one terminal marked. I'd say possibly a loose connection or short in wiring harness. Check the advance plate in the distributor to make sure it isn't moving around. If this plate is worn or loose the engine can still run but it will run very rough. I'm not 100% sure but I think Ford used to power their electric chokes from the stator circuit of the alternator so that the choke would only get power while the engine was running,ignition switch in the "on"position.
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From: Bassett Virginia
As for the electric choke wire, the hot wire to the (+) side of the choke should be "ignition on" position switchble.
The solenoid "S" lead is only hot while cranking and the "I" lead is only there to momentarely by pass the ignition resistior wire to deliver 12 full volts to the coil while cranking.
When i did my truck I wired the choke right from the assy terminal of the fuse block inside the cab. Just make sure its a switchable terminal as some are always hot. Mine works perfectly this way and its been like that for years.
Go back and bring up the number one piston and look at the distributer pointer and see if its pointing to the number one position on the ditributer cap......you could be 180 degrees off, or it could have jumped timing somehow. Once you are positive that is not the problem, recheck your plug wires.....as far as that goes all of your wiring that you "cleaned up" and make sure they are right.
Are you getting fuel to the carb?????
The solenoid "S" lead is only hot while cranking and the "I" lead is only there to momentarely by pass the ignition resistior wire to deliver 12 full volts to the coil while cranking.
When i did my truck I wired the choke right from the assy terminal of the fuse block inside the cab. Just make sure its a switchable terminal as some are always hot. Mine works perfectly this way and its been like that for years.
Go back and bring up the number one piston and look at the distributer pointer and see if its pointing to the number one position on the ditributer cap......you could be 180 degrees off, or it could have jumped timing somehow. Once you are positive that is not the problem, recheck your plug wires.....as far as that goes all of your wiring that you "cleaned up" and make sure they are right.
Are you getting fuel to the carb?????
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From: Orlando, Fl
Im running the correct firing order for the 302, cap fits right and has #1 labeled on it, rotor points to #1 plug when turning over, choke is wired to fuse box, getting fuel, only bundled up a few wires, lots of unplugged and crappy wires around makes it hard to check stuff, i can get a spark at the plug but only once, i can manually spark the points, everything in the distributor looks clean and in good order with new points and condenser....i guessing wiring but its hard to see if everything is in the right spot, im going to try some more stuff and see where im at again....can i just run some new wires with inline fuse something from the ignition switch?
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From: Bassett Virginia
When you checked to make sure the rotor is pointing at number 1, did you check to make sure the number 1 piston is all the way up?? Just because its pointing at number 1 doesnt mean the piston is all the way up, it could still be 180 degrees off.
If thats correct, I would definately go back and check the bundled up wiring. If it was running before you "cleaned" it up under the hood, maybe there is a wire shorted somewhere. Unbundle them and start from there trying to fire up the truck as you go maybe?
Also disconnect your gas pedal linkage and try to start it that way again. Make sure its not hung open or not opening at all. I would think that its something you did after putting your gas pedal linkage on and buttoning up things that is causing this since you say it was running before you did that.
If thats correct, I would definately go back and check the bundled up wiring. If it was running before you "cleaned" it up under the hood, maybe there is a wire shorted somewhere. Unbundle them and start from there trying to fire up the truck as you go maybe?
Also disconnect your gas pedal linkage and try to start it that way again. Make sure its not hung open or not opening at all. I would think that its something you did after putting your gas pedal linkage on and buttoning up things that is causing this since you say it was running before you did that.