New Explorer offroad capabilties?
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New Explorer offroad capabilties?
I wasn't sure which thread this question shouold go into, but I have a 2007 Explorer with the V6 that I use offroad, mostly in loose sand on the beach, for fishing. Does anyone know the capabilities the new Explorer in 4x4?
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FWD or F/awd only. SOLID coupling to the front drive and "soft", dynamically adjustable, drive to the rear. Patently UNSAFE even on wintertime adverse condition, slippery, roadbeds, let alone off-road.
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While the "4wd" Explorer is really all wheel drive, meaning you cannot select between 2wd and a 4hi or 4low, and all wheels are somwhat powered even on dry pavement. The Terrain Management System (very closely related to that found on the Land Rover LR3 and Range Rover, very capable off roaders I might add) does allow for adjustments in the drivetrains response and "nanny controls" like throttle response, stability control, wheelspin, etc.
Sure, the 2011 Explorer is no rock crawler, but should be well suited for the average users off road needs. Meaning conditions like mild mud on fire roads, beach accesses, and snowy conditions should not be a problem at all. Now...this all comes with some common sense. Such as trying to drop the vehicle into 12" deep mud holes, or really soft rutted out sand banks, or 2ft deep uncleared snow, all of which would warrant a vehicle with more ground clearance, and more capability off road.
But back to the OP's question, I do think that the 2011 should fit your needs, and while it may be a little "softer" of a vehicle, it should not be ruled out of your potential search.
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It has less ground clearance then the old explorer.
It has no low range transfer case.
It has open front and rear differentials.
Instead of a true center differential/transfer case, it has a PTO which connects to an electronically controlled clutch pack at the rear differential. It engages the clutches to drive the rear wheels when it detects slip, other wise it stays in FWD. It will also default to FWD if the clutch pack over-heats or senses a condition that could lead to damage.
While I would say it's better than the average CUV, it's definitely a less off-road capable vehicle than the previous explorer. Its off-road prowess basically comes from the computer's ability to modulate the brakes and rear clutch pack retroactively. In contrast, a true 4WD system is much more proactive.
It has no low range transfer case.
It has open front and rear differentials.
Instead of a true center differential/transfer case, it has a PTO which connects to an electronically controlled clutch pack at the rear differential. It engages the clutches to drive the rear wheels when it detects slip, other wise it stays in FWD. It will also default to FWD if the clutch pack over-heats or senses a condition that could lead to damage.
While I would say it's better than the average CUV, it's definitely a less off-road capable vehicle than the previous explorer. Its off-road prowess basically comes from the computer's ability to modulate the brakes and rear clutch pack retroactively. In contrast, a true 4WD system is much more proactive.
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Let us not forget that there is comparison between the current gen Explorer and it's predecessor. Only the name remains the same.
This is not a truck nor is it intended to be. The days of an Explorer built on a Ranger chassis are long gone. The Explorer slowly evolved over the years into what we have today.
I wouldn't consider this vehicle for any off road use. In my opinion, it's strictly intended for on road service in all weather conditions.
This is not a truck nor is it intended to be. The days of an Explorer built on a Ranger chassis are long gone. The Explorer slowly evolved over the years into what we have today.
I wouldn't consider this vehicle for any off road use. In my opinion, it's strictly intended for on road service in all weather conditions.
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I wouldn't use this truck off-road either, but if there is the need, i bet the truck can get you out of a hurry. I've seen all kind of claims without any real data to back them up, so those are OPINIONS, not FACTS. Until the truck has been properly tested and compared i would not make any claims about it. Of course, mechanical drivelines for the driveline will be more dependable than hidraulics and clutchs, yet the old Explorer wasn't all that much as an off-roader either. The new one just got better at what has been the task of this model for a while, an all-weather transport, yet it has the capability to help itself out of some snow/sand in a hurry, not a daily basis off-roader.
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Here's one off-road test of the new Explorer:
http://youtu.be/135d_imepQU
Doesn't take much to get it stuck.
http://youtu.be/135d_imepQU
Doesn't take much to get it stuck.
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Encho made a good point...that wasn't stuck...and...with the proper tires and pedal modulation...there would have been no issue.
Ford didn't build this vehicle to be an Off Roader...it was built for the situations the vast majority of purchasers will experience. The Explorer hasn't really been a capable off roader since the redesign for the '02 model year. Of course...real 4X4 did help...but...the vast majority of drivers very rarely used it.
Ford wasn't looking to fill a niche...it was trying to make a vehicle that would appeal to the masses...and...produce profits for the company...and share holders. After all...that's what it's really all about.
Ford didn't build this vehicle to be an Off Roader...it was built for the situations the vast majority of purchasers will experience. The Explorer hasn't really been a capable off roader since the redesign for the '02 model year. Of course...real 4X4 did help...but...the vast majority of drivers very rarely used it.
Ford wasn't looking to fill a niche...it was trying to make a vehicle that would appeal to the masses...and...produce profits for the company...and share holders. After all...that's what it's really all about.
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Either way this is most likely a situation that would have stopped a 2011+ Explorer dead in its tracks.
