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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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just found this 400

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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 02:14 AM
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351M that exist, but the 400M, i don't know. 400 and 351M from Ford are possible.
How do you know it's a 400?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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351M that exist, but the 400M, i don't know. 400 and 351M from Ford are possible.
How do you know it's a 400?
"335 Series- 5.8/351M, 6.6/400, 351 Cleveland" ????
 

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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by maverickman514
new to FORDS? I know it's a 400 because:

A) it's an unmolested piece and the valve cover sticker says "400 C.I.D."
You can't rely on that, you have no idea what somebody may have changed over the
years.

Originally Posted by maverickman514
B) it has about a mile of stroke (measured thru spark plug hole at 4.0 inches)
Without opening the thing up, this is the only reliable way to discern the difference.

Originally Posted by maverickman514
if 400M did not exist, then why the hell would this forum be titled "335 Series- 5.8/351M, 6.6/400, 351 Cleveland" ????

Notice the title of this forum is:

351M
400
351 Cleveland

The guys are right, there is only one 400 and is therefore referenced only as a 400 with
no appendages.

There are at lest 3 versions of the 351....

351 C
351 W
351 M

Look here for more info:
Bubba's M-Block Ford V8 Workshop
 
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis

The guys are right, there is only one 400 and is therefore referenced only as a 400 with
no appendages.

There are at lest 3 versions of the 351....

351 C
351 W
351 M

Look here for more info:
Bubba's M-Block Ford V8 Workshop

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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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It appears to me you are trying to make a sell. It isn't like the 400 is rare.

Ford 400 - Google Search

Also as you can see by the title of this forum, it is 6.6/400, no 400m.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by maverickman514
General knowledge of the 335 series is that the 400 is built in a 351M block/architecture, and therefore often referred to as a "400M".
This may be your experience but I can tell you it's not the experience of the members of
this forum....
 
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Remove the coil wire ,Pull the #1 spark plug insert at least a 8inch plactic staw in the hole turn the crankshaft clockwise with a socket and ratchet until the tdc on balancer mark lines up with the timing indicator then mark the straw on the at the outer edge of the hole and slowly turn the crank clockwise until the straw bottoms out and mark straw if measures 3.5 its a 351m and 4.0 inches its a 400.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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I would like to add my 2 cents worth to this whole 400M or not an "M" issue.
I think I can safely say that I speak to more people about a 400 Ford than anyone. (maybe)
I have heard people call them a 400, a 400M and even a 400 Cleveland.
Here's is what I tell them... nothing. I really don't care what you call this engine. I'm just here to help.
Within 30 seconds of most conversations, I can tell that we are talking about either a 400 Ford, 400 Chevy, 400 Pontiac, etc.
That's all I need to know.

just my 2 cents
 
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by maverickman514
General knowledge of the 335 series is that the 400 is built in a 351M block/architecture, and therefore often referred to as a "400M"..................................I guess I just shoulda never bothered sharing the find here, because it was obviously not appreciated
--- First of all, the 400 was introduced in 1971. The 351m was introduced in 1975. The 351m is in fact a destroked 400.

So how is it that the 400 "is built on a 351M block/architecture...."? The 400 came first, the M later, and the 400 was never called the M before the 351M.


It's fine to share, but:

--research multiple sources and be accurate

--when you are presented with information contrary to your post, check it out instead of digging in.

Just a thought....
 
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 12:05 AM
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Wow guys really? I didn't realize this was the junior high section! Who the hell cares if there's an m, p, l r, or any other freaking letter next to 400. Everyone on this forum knows what engine is being refered to. Spelling and terrible grammar are a much bigger problem... There has just been a half dozen posts on here with absolutely nothing to do with th original. How about everybody grow up and play nice.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by johnson2007
Wow guys really? I didn't realize this was the junior high section! Who the hell cares if there's an m, p, l r, or any other freaking letter next to 400. Everyone on this forum knows what engine is being refered to. Spelling and terrible grammar are a much bigger problem... There has just been a half dozen posts on here with absolutely nothing to do with th original. How about everybody grow up and play nice.

Yep, your 2 cents helped a lot...
 
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Originally Posted by johnson2007
There has just been a half dozen posts on here
Have, not has.

This whole M-or-no-M is a sort of religious thing amongst many out here but I will agree
that spelling and bad grammar are harder to deal with.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Actually has is correct because of the modifier "just." If I had not used "just" then yes, "have" would be correct. This is not an english debate. Its about a guy being nice and offering a decent low mileage engine for someone who needs one. And to the previous poster, that wasn't my "two cents" and I wasn't being "helpful." This is not the first post that has gotten out of hand for absolutely no reason and it needs to stop. Now I will step down from my soap box...
 
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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sorry mate, I'm too far away to pick it up. strange how the smallest thing can start arguments. That M thing is the closest to a single letter four letter word on this forum, and I've been pinged for it several times when i first started posting. It's like the fawlty towers joke "Don't mention the War!!!". It's just easier to comply even if you don't care and can cut to what you really need to know.
 
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