Alumidiesel?
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Alumidiesel?
ok, i had a crazy thought that probebly is a stupid one but here goes. we all know that diesels are awsome
. the power the fuel econ and the just lplain awsome factor. the onre thing thats not that kool(aid) is the massive weight
. my thought is, would an aluninum block diesel work? or am i just crazy?
. the power the fuel econ and the just lplain awsome factor. the onre thing thats not that kool(aid) is the massive weight. my thought is, would an aluninum block diesel work? or am i just crazy?
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A number of years ago my old boss saw a prototype diesel BMW(maybe) SUV with a supposed 500,k on it driven by some clean cut guys with exterior sensors and what appeared to be a satellite connection on top. It had dual turbos and a ceramic block, I don't remember any other info although Jeff spent his lunch time chatting with them as they were on theirs.
Never heard anything about it in the mags and never bothered to investigate as this was before internet. Didn't even think about it till you just asked about aluminum blocks.
Never heard anything about it in the mags and never bothered to investigate as this was before internet. Didn't even think about it till you just asked about aluminum blocks.
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A number of years ago my old boss saw a prototype diesel BMW(maybe) SUV with a supposed 500,k on it driven by some clean cut guys with exterior sensors and what appeared to be a satellite connection on top. It had dual turbos and a ceramic block, I don't remember any other info although Jeff spent his lunch time chatting with them as they were on theirs.
Never heard anything about it in the mags and never bothered to investigate as this was before internet. Didn't even think about it till you just asked about aluminum blocks.
Never heard anything about it in the mags and never bothered to investigate as this was before internet. Didn't even think about it till you just asked about aluminum blocks.
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VW has some aluminum block diesels...so does Mercedes.
Between development cost and the limited number of potential buyers I can't see anyone producing aluminum blocks for diesel competition trucks.
Between development cost and the limited number of potential buyers I can't see anyone producing aluminum blocks for diesel competition trucks.
Last edited by SteveBricks; Mar 8, 2011 at 02:22 PM.
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Detroit Diesel made some aluminum 6V53 blocks for navy in 60's, riverine boats. lister and deutz(aircooled) used alum. components. saw article in 80's for 6 cylinder deutz, large radiator for intercooler and water injection spraying onto cylinder jugs.
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traditional aluminum would have to be so thick that the weight savings would not be what you think. however with some of the new alloys, and casting technology from europe i don't think its impossible. just more $ to develop and build. the new cast iron ford is using is supposed to save some weight too
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If i can remember everything from my CAT failure anaylis class, it comes down to how strenght and properties of the block. Almost all HD Diesels are cast iron blocks. Cast iron is strong, its at a state where it will flex a bit, the carbon in the block allow some self lubrication, and its hard but yet brittle. I have no idea what kind of properties allummiunim has but i personally think it wouldnt hold up in a HD Truck engine such as Cummins, CAT and DD. Sure allumuinum is strong but idk if it could handle cavatation erision.
Just some thoughts that are somewhat resonable. If i had my CAT notes, i could very easily tell you but its 6 months since that class
Just some thoughts that are somewhat resonable. If i had my CAT notes, i could very easily tell you but its 6 months since that class
