Suspension interchange.
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Suspension interchange.
Yesterday I saw a really cool 65/66 truck lifted 2-3 inchs rolling 33's, and now I am thinking man I need to go off-roading. Again.
Luckily I have not stacked any parts for a swap yet.
Can a F-250 disk brake beams be transferred over to a F100, and still keep my manual steering? Or does this swap only work with the power steering swap?
If I do go off-roading route with my truck I want the biggest brakes I can get easily on my truck, and with out braking the bank. So I think F-250 brakes would suit the bill quite well, along with a D60 rear swap.
Or do you think a custom front/rear brake swap would be the better option. I am thinking a Dodge Charger brake swap becouse the car is heavy, and stops really well.
Either way I plan to run 17's with some type of 32 or 33 inch AT/HT style tire.
Luckily I have not stacked any parts for a swap yet.
Can a F-250 disk brake beams be transferred over to a F100, and still keep my manual steering? Or does this swap only work with the power steering swap?
If I do go off-roading route with my truck I want the biggest brakes I can get easily on my truck, and with out braking the bank. So I think F-250 brakes would suit the bill quite well, along with a D60 rear swap.
Or do you think a custom front/rear brake swap would be the better option. I am thinking a Dodge Charger brake swap becouse the car is heavy, and stops really well.
Either way I plan to run 17's with some type of 32 or 33 inch AT/HT style tire.
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78 F250 Frame is about a bolt in swap. I went the other way with a 78 F250 frame shortened to 114 inch wheelbase and F100 suspension. Easy swap. 460/C6 of course and my deal is 2wd. 4wd may pose some other challenges.
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Zieg as William posted, the chassis are minutely different between 2wd & between 4wd trucks. A sheetmetal swap on top can be about as easy as beating & banging underneith.
I disagree with your Charger thinking. What Charger was ever built to handle what a 250 was designed to handle?
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I disagree with your Charger thinking. What Charger was ever built to handle what a 250 was designed to handle?
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Zieg as William posted, the chassis are minutely different between 2wd & between 4wd trucks. A sheetmetal swap on top can be about as easy as beating & banging underneith.
I disagree with your Charger thinking. What Charger was ever built to handle what a 250 was designed to handle?
John
I disagree with your Charger thinking. What Charger was ever built to handle what a 250 was designed to handle?
John
2009 Charger brakes I would use 13.58x1.1 inches
EBC Brakes UPR7241 - EBC UPR Premium Replacement Rotors - Overview - SummitRacing.com
1976 F250 12.641.1.185
Bendix Brakes PRT1065 - Bendix Brakes Brake Rotors - Overview - SummitRacing.com
Even the new F250SD are a bit shorter then Charger brakes. It does list thickness which is half the deal.
Power Slot 126-65112SR - Power Slot Slotted Brake Rotors - Overview - SummitRacing.com
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F250 and F100 beams are the same thing. Use the same kingpins. There is no material gain in using them. And you will not gain any lift using them.
The F250 frame is about 1 inch larger in profile and of a heaver gauge material.
How would you adapt the metric rotors to the 5 on 5.5 hubs you have? How would you adapt the correct sweep diameter caliper to the spindle? What diameter master cylinder bore is needed to feed the charger calipers?
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The F250 frame is about 1 inch larger in profile and of a heaver gauge material.
How would you adapt the metric rotors to the 5 on 5.5 hubs you have? How would you adapt the correct sweep diameter caliper to the spindle? What diameter master cylinder bore is needed to feed the charger calipers?
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I have seen it done to 69 drum brake hubs with C5/6 Corvette brakes, and I think I can make it work with the Charger/F100 with a possable lug pattern swap.
None the less what you do is trun down the drum brake hat if you will to fit inside the disk brake hat. On the Camaro you do not loose the bolt pattern, but on the F100 if you try this I don't know. Since I would have to run 17" rims minimum as long as the pattern is common enough it would work in my book.
As for the caliper mount your make it atleast 3/16 or 1/4 thick bracket that mounts off the backing plate mounts. It may take some bending or cutting and welding to get the correct spacing. Some guy down under did it on some sort of car they have with a 110V welder, angle grinder, jig saw with metal blade, and a drill. When it was done it looked pretty good.
As far as the master cylinder its the least worrisome of the swap since there are tons of them out there. From stock cast iron to stock aluminium and plastic to polished aluminum to.
None the less what you do is trun down the drum brake hat if you will to fit inside the disk brake hat. On the Camaro you do not loose the bolt pattern, but on the F100 if you try this I don't know. Since I would have to run 17" rims minimum as long as the pattern is common enough it would work in my book.
As for the caliper mount your make it atleast 3/16 or 1/4 thick bracket that mounts off the backing plate mounts. It may take some bending or cutting and welding to get the correct spacing. Some guy down under did it on some sort of car they have with a 110V welder, angle grinder, jig saw with metal blade, and a drill. When it was done it looked pretty good.
As far as the master cylinder its the least worrisome of the swap since there are tons of them out there. From stock cast iron to stock aluminium and plastic to polished aluminum to.
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now your talking about doing something like i did with my 63 f250 to gain disc brakes... good luck, and i hope you have a fat wallet. because it's not cheap. i have first hand experince doing this.
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Zig! How about Ford Disks in front (stock), boosted with 11 inch drums in back. I have always used Ford Disk on a booster with stock drums in back but the 11 inch deal is available backing plates and all. I am going to try those soon. Currently my truck stops as good as it gets with boosted disks in front and the original drums out back. Simple, no special parts and not really expensive.
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Well I never had a off-road tires before so I am not sure how good stock F100 disks are.
From what the guy 2 posts up said it looks like I will do a F250 swap if I go this route. They are plentifull ay my pyp's where as F100's are pretty rare.
From what the guy 2 posts up said it looks like I will do a F250 swap if I go this route. They are plentifull ay my pyp's where as F100's are pretty rare.
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So are you converting to 4x4 or are you wanting a pre-runner? If you are not going 4x4then your current disk set up should be enough to get you out of the minimal trouble you can get into with a 4x2.
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Pre-runner I just need to cruise down dirt roads a bit to go fishing. I have done it in slammed cars just really slow of coure.
I am pretty confused right now with which way I wanna go with my truck. So I keep going from slammed on the CV swap to mildly raised with 33"s.
I was going to start gathering parts in a bit for my summer swap out plans, but I will wait till I am more sure of my plans.
I am pretty confused right now with which way I wanna go with my truck. So I keep going from slammed on the CV swap to mildly raised with 33"s.
I was going to start gathering parts in a bit for my summer swap out plans, but I will wait till I am more sure of my plans.
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1965 F100/250 2WD's use ONE YEAR ONLY king pins. 1966 and later is not the same.
C5TZ-3111-C .. King Pin Kit / Use with I-Beams stamped C5TA-3008-A or B (right) / C5TA-3009-A or B (left).
F250 drum brakes: All 1953/65's have 12 1/8" x 2" front/rear brakes / 1966/72's (depending on the GVW) have either 12 1/8" x 2" or 12" x 2 1/2" front/rear (12" x 2 1/2" std equipment on '66/72 Camper Specials).
C5TZ-3111-C .. King Pin Kit / Use with I-Beams stamped C5TA-3008-A or B (right) / C5TA-3009-A or B (left).
F250 drum brakes: All 1953/65's have 12 1/8" x 2" front/rear brakes / 1966/72's (depending on the GVW) have either 12 1/8" x 2" or 12" x 2 1/2" front/rear (12" x 2 1/2" std equipment on '66/72 Camper Specials).
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