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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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Mid-rpm knocking

I switched over to a Duraspark II in my '72 400. I've had issues with detonation in the past, and now with this setup it starts pinging at about 2200rpm, but not when I have it floored.

Other than installing a more restrictive limiter plate, what can I do about it?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Under what kind of load? When floored, I'm assuming either you or an automatic
transmission downshifts to a lower gear. I would probably retard the ignition timing
before I started messing around with other stuff.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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Under what kind of load? When floored, I'm assuming either you or an automatic
transmission downshifts to a lower gear. I would probably retard the ignition timing
before I started messing around with other stuff.
Regular load, no extra weight. When I mean "floored" I mean to say that I'm giving it a good amount of gas, but not to the point that it's downshifted.

I have it at 8* now. Also, the dizzy would be a stock 1977 HEI type, and my motor has the EGR disconnected and all the smog stuff removed, which has been a challenge to get it re-curved right.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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...and my motor has the EGR disconnected and all the smog stuff removed, which has been a challenge to get it re-curved right.
Looks to me like you've answered your own question....
 
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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Ok, so I'm on the right track after all.

I need to just go get a 460 dizzy with the 10L limiter then.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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I have no egr/smog, the 10L with med/med springs and i'm close. Also what carb do you run? I had the same type of situation and put in a lighter secondary spring.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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I have the stock 2100 in it. Saturday I acquired a 13L limiter with two strong springs and got rid of most of the knocking, but there is still some there.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalExile
Regular load, no extra weight. When I mean "floored" I mean to say that I'm giving it a good amount of gas, but not to the point that it's downshifted.

I have it at 8* now. Also, the dizzy would be a stock 1977 HEI type, and my motor has the EGR disconnected and all the smog stuff removed, which has been a challenge to get it re-curved right.
Under that description "when I floor it" it would be the vacuum advance causing the ping, not the centrifugal advance. The the vacuum advance shuts off when you put a load on it causing your ping to stop. You need to limit the vacuum advance unit.
 
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Originally Posted by SoCalExile
I switched over to a Duraspark II in my '72 400. I've had issues with detonation in the past, and now with this setup it starts pinging at about 2200rpm, but not when I have it floored.

Other than installing a more restrictive limiter plate, what can I do about it?

Years ago crane sold a adjustable vacum advance unit. I have one on my truck. You adjust the how much spring pressure by turning a allen bolt inside the unit.
look for Crane Cams part # 99607-1 I hope you can still get them.
If I remember right Crane was the only people with these years ago.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 08:11 AM
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I drilled and tapped a few small holes in the vacuum advance arm inside my dizzy & made a little stop arm to limit the vacuum advance in it. I saw a guy on here that drilled a bunch of small holes in the arm and just tryed a small roll pin in each hole till he got his to stop the pinging.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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try putting a 1/8"(iirc) allen in the vacuum port. My reman duraspark had adjustable vacuum advance. I have mine fairily tight.
 
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