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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DSMMH
Now I'm confused!

Why do you need a "waterproof" air filter in a enclosed air box that has one inlet that is not exposed directly to water impingement unless you have the ZOODAD mod?
Even on a stock intake design(no zoodad), no way is the intake system water proof. The water It is getting splashed around from the cars in front of you and it is dispersing through out the air. Even if it is not raining, but you get mist on the windshield, then you are getting watter in the intake. The blue filter media can take in water, the white can not handle it.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by davidkstyler
...and if water gets into either type of filter would the dust turn to mud and plug the filter?
I have lived on the same gravel road for 36 years and put K&Ns in every vehicle I have owned. And that my friend has been a lot of vehicles. I have never had any sign of dust caked on any K&N I have owned. Mud and dust "caking" on a K&N is a myth. If I was off roading, which I do not do, I would have reservations about using a K&N or any other filter as mud would plug both. The beauty of the K&N is I can wash it out, re-oil it and use it again. I don't think you can say the same for the paper filter.

Just passing on my significant positive experience with K&N filters.

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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by smokersteve
Even on a stock intake design(no zoodad), no way is the intake system water proof. The water It is getting splashed around from the cars in front of you and it is dispersing through out the air. Even if it is not raining, but you get mist on the windshield, then you are getting watter in the intake. The blue filter media can take in water, the white can not handle it.
I have used both the white and blue OEM filter replacements. The zoodad mod has been on my X from day one because I wanted to give the engine the coolest possible air source. When I had them installed you can look in my grill and see the entire front of the filter. Without the zoodad mod the standard intake takes in primarily hot air from the engine compartment. Anyway, I saw no degradation of either the white or blue filter element due to moisture. And if you don't see moisture problems with the zoodad mod you are not going to see any moisture problems with the OEM intake setup.

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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DSMMH
I have lived on the same gravel road for 36 years and put K&Ns in every vehicle I have owned. And that my friend has been a lot of vehicles. I have never had any sign of dust caked on any K&N I have owned. Mud and dust "caking" on a K&N is a myth. If I was off roading, which I do not do, I would have reservations about using a K&N or any other filter as mud would plug both. The beauty of the K&N is I can wash it out, re-oil it and use it again. I don't think you can say the same for the paper filter.

Just passing on my significant positive experience with K&N filters.

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Sorry if that was confusing, I wasn't talking about K&N filters, the thread discussion was about Donaldson white vs FMC blue media.
I was asking the question - IF water was pulled into the filter media...
 
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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What is is the international nuber????? or is that Fleetguard...
 
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 04:06 PM
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Follow up, I emailed Donaldson and asked:
Can you tell me what the difference is between the Donaldson P603577 filter and the Motorcraft FA1778 Air Filter?
The Motorcraft appears to use a blue media, is it just a color difference?


The reply was:
Hi David, the blue media is synthetic and the white media is cellulose.
The P603577 aftermarket version will fit, form and function as the blue media,
but the blue media filter will last longer. It has more dirt holding capcity.

Let me know if you have further questions, thanks.

Patty Schreiner | Technical Inside Sales | Phone: 800-846-1846 | Fax:
952-703-4652 | patty.schreiner@donaldson.com
Donaldson Company Inc | Hydraulics-Engine Aftermarket | 1400 W 94th St
Bloomington, MN 55431 |


I'm not sure if that answers any questions or just starts a few more!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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The cellulose can get wet and essentially "blind-off". The synthetic will not.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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were have yall been finding the blue filter online.
 
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