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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 08:47 PM
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Is it possible for an intake valve to be open because of the position the cam came to rest in when the motor was shut off? I'm asking more because I have no idea if things actually work this way... is this possible?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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Are you talking about the valve cover bolt?
That is the question Chris. It sounds like he is talking about a bolt near the VC but not necessarily a VC bolt.

There was a post about a boost leak and the fix was installing a bolt that got left out after some work. It wasn't a VC bolt and I can't find that thread.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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Is it possible for an intake valve to be open because of the position the cam came to rest in when the motor was shut off?
Yep. But the cumbustion chambers should not leak into the area under the VC no matter the position of the valves. The leak should be toward the intake or the exhaust.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PaysonPSD
Yep. But the cumbustion chambers should not leak into the area under the VC no matter the position of the valves. The leak should be toward the intake or the exhaust.
Right... if that was the case, then you'd be looking at a screwed valve seat, right? I hear that's pretty rare on these trucks... and now that I think of it, it wouldn't and shouldn't matter if the valve is open or not. It'd only bleed into the crank case and I guess unless he did the CCV mod, it's all one sealed volume of air, right? I'm trying to soak this all in...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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If a valve with a bad seal were open then yes, air pressure could leak into the VC and CC. The air pressure would also pass through the doghouse and back into the intake, or in the case of a CCV Mod out that. It wou;d be so dispersed that it would probably not be heard, especially at just 20 PSI.

If the valve is closed it shouldn't allow air to get to the valve seal.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PaysonPSD
If a valve with a bad seal were open then yes, air pressure could leak into the VC and CC. The air pressure would also pass through the doghouse and back into the intake, or in the case of a CCV Mod out that. It wou;d be so dispersed that it would probably not be heard, especially at just 20 PSI.

If the valve is closed it shouldn't allow air to get to the valve seal.
Got ya... I'll be interested to see if y'all can dig up that thread about the whole that can be plugged. I have an oily residue that happened in less than a year that's in that general area... it looks like plenums, but it's not. I've tightened the boots many times and build good boost so I'm pretty sure I don't have much as far as boost leaks go. Thanks for the explanations, Robin.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PaysonPSD
That is the question Chris. It sounds like he is talking about a bolt near the VC but not necessarily a VC bolt.

There was a post about a boost leak and the fix was installing a bolt that got left out after some work. It wasn't a VC bolt and I can't find that thread.
Robin, if I remember correctly...that thread was about a plenum bolt that was missing. The bolt right next to the fuel gallery plug (if memory serves...)
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 02:12 AM
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A loose plenum bolt would probably allow a leak, and it might look like a "valve cover" leak to someone who isn't completely familiar with the 7.3.

It's sheet metal, it's bolted to the head, looks like a valve cover......

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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 04:49 AM
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The bolt that I tightened was the front bolt on the inside of the valve cover.
 

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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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I know it was coming from the valve cover. I tightened the bolt up and it slowed the air down
If it truly is coming out from under the valve cover, then if you remove the oil filler cap it will come out from there too.
If removing the oil filler cap does not produce a change in flow from under the valve cover, then I very strongly suspect that there is a problem at the intake plenum or possibly a crack in the charge air tube. (the big pipe that goes from the turbo to the intercooler.)
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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Guys, I think I am the one that had the bolt missing that caused the leak y'all are referring to. In my case it was the bolt in front of the driver's side intake plenum that the AIH is grounded to. When we did the AIH delete we just removed that bolt thinking that it was a blind hole, meaning that it didn't go all the way through the valve cover. I believe that in many cases this is true, but in my case it was not. I found the bolt in my toolbox and reinstalled it to seal the leak. But this doesn't sound like what the OP is dealing with.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:07 AM
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First, if air was leaking from under the valve cover, you need to unclog your crankcase vent.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:17 AM
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You do have the air hooked up to the intake on the turbo, not on the intake tube before the ccv? just thinking out loud
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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You do have the air hooked up to the intake on the turbo, not on the intake tube before the ccv? just thinking out loud
That would do it.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:23 AM
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Lmao. That is exactly what I did. I have been beating my brain tryig to figure this out. As I read your post I thought about the ccv. I will recheck it tomorrw morning
 
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