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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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40 mph studder....

I have an 01 4x4 Excursion with the V-10 and 4.30 gears. I have a very wierd issue. Under very specific circumstances at 40 mph, the truck will studder or hiccup. The truck must be slowly accelerateing with VERY light throttle, it must be on level or just slightly inclined road, the truck must have already shifted to 4th gear (around 1800 or less rmp) and going or accelerating thru 40 mph. If any of these perameters are not met the truck accelerates just fine. In fact, other than purposly reprodcing it, in about 2000 miles it has only happend about 3 times.

I purchased the the truck in November and have only put about 2000 miles on it. It has about 148,000 on it now. It appears that the P.O. replaced all of the COPs with new Mastercraft's. I dont know the milage, but it idles a little high (1000 out of gear, 800 in gear) Tranny fluid has not been changed yet by me, but seems clean and to the full mark when hot.....

Any ideas?

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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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I don't have an automatic, but I wonder if it isn't just the clutch lockout..... Under the circumstances you describe its probably normal.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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I dont think it is "normal". It is not just one hiccup, it is maybe 3 or 4 hiccups........
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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How many miles on the spark plugs?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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How many miles on the spark plugs?
I really dont know. I am pretty sure they were replaced with the COPs but I could not be positive.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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TCC solenoid could be going or sticking.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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My 2002 F-350 7.3L auto is doing the same thing. Over the past couple months the conditions to cause the studdering have widen. It went from only at 40-45mph to 35-50mph.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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My 99 has a jerking studder as yours and I think it's the lockout on the torque converter. I'm going to do the transmission flush. Understand that the clutchs build up a glaze and the flush cleans them. Not sure but the pro's here will hopefully join in. Good luck.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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Me? I'd pull a couple of spark plugs (front and rear, both sides) and look at the electrodes. On the 4.6 (2v and 4v) and 5.4 mod engines I've had, the stumble when accelerating in a high gear has been caused by spark plug erosion. Other friends have vehicles other than Ford and mistook the stumble for transmission issues.

Just my .02.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 11:50 PM
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If you decide the TCC is the way to go (troubleshoot first), here's a link that may help you. Click here; troubleshooting is given in some of the posts, #10 has directions for the R&R of the TCC.
 
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Originally Posted by cliles55
Me? I'd pull a couple of spark plugs (front and rear, both sides) and look at the electrodes. On the 4.6 (2v and 4v) and 5.4 mod engines I've had, the stumble when accelerating in a high gear has been caused by spark plug erosion. Other friends have vehicles other than Ford and mistook the stumble for transmission issues.

Just my .02.
When I purchased the truck I pulled the plugs from #1 and #6 and they didnt look bad at all. I didnt go any further though. They definetly dindt have 146,000 miles on them. The boots also still felt soft and ALL of the COPs have been replaced. It could be ignition related, but the fact that it ONLY does it at one truck speed and no other ignition signs, I tend to think its not the ignition. It doesnt do it in 1st - 3rd at the same rpm.....

Thanks for all your help, I am going to trouble shoot the TCC.

WMNY, let me know if the flush helps. If we get a dry day, I will be doing the same...
 
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 09:11 AM
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my truck was kinda doing the same thing,i thought it was water in the gas cause i just filled up.under lite throttle,it ended up being a cop that was bad. i would put a scanner to it and see.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by EMC V10 X
I dont think it is "normal". It is not just one hiccup, it is maybe 3 or 4 hiccups........
This is exactly how it started for me when I had a spark plug issue at ~75K. Remember that high gear with TCC locked at that speed/RPM is the highest load you ever put on the engine. This is where the load is highest in the cylinder and you have the best chance of miss-fire with any kind of ignition malfunction. I pulled the plugs and found one to have enough residue, looked like oil/ash kind of combination to cause the missfire. New plugs and boots fixed it. Check the codes to see if it is setting a missfire code. I never saw one but you never know. Good luck!
 
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