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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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peak power vs RMS

whats the difference between peak power and RMS? im on the best buy website looking at head units, and alot of them say 50w, but some have 17w rms, and others 22rms.

also, i am looking for a basic head unit without any fancy satiellite radio or touch screens or anything like that. i want to spend somewhere in the range of 150 dollars. if anybody wants to make a suggestion, please do. my truck is in my sig. thanks
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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Check out crutchfield.com. Lots of good info there. In a nutshell: Peak is just that, the highest wattage it can produce. RMS is the wattage where there is no distortion. Anything beyond that distortion occurs.

I like Pioneer units. Get one with a USB port so you can play all your downloaded songs.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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distortion is the reason i want to replace my current unit. whenever i try to crank a song moderately loud, i get a fair amount of distortion. i also agree with going for pioneer. i was looking at pioneers and alpines with the usb/accesory port.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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Kenwood KDC-HD545U CD receiver at Crutchfield.com

i just found this on that website. it seems to be exactly what im looking for, although i didnt give any thought to a kenwood unit. it even comes with all the harness kits and trim.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by octaneforce
whenever i try to crank a song moderately loud, i get a fair amount of distortion.
That's sounds more like a speaker issue. What kind of speakers do you have in there? Are you running an amp?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by V10man
...RMS is the wattage where there is no distortion. Anything beyond that distortion occurs...
Proof that you can't believe everything that you read in the internet.

The RMS value is the square root of the arithmetic mean (average) of the squares of the original values (or the square of the function that defines the continuous waveform).

NOTHING to do with distortion.

For purchasing sake... Never look at peak values, always look at RMS, and try to look for a rating that includes full range frequency response with all channels driven.

For example, car audio manufacturers could typically get away with a peak rating measured where only a single channel of a 4-ch device is driven, only measuring 1khz frequency band, and at 50% distortion. If you are diverting all of your power to a single channel, to get that peak, you're certainly not going to reach that if all 4 channels are driven. Same with the frequency of the measurement.

Also, you will NOT hear a difference between 17 and 22 watts RMS. The human ear is simply not sensitive enough to tell less than a 3db change, and you would have to double the wattage (34w) to get a 3db change.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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thanks for all the info. my speakers are new and were fairly good sets, however i do not remember the brand of them. max wattage really seems like false advertisement with these head units when compared to rms. (especially since nobody is going to drive just a single channel with their stereo) il just have to make sure the head units im looking at have good rms.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AudioNutz
NOTHING to do with distortion.
100% correct.

The reason for this misconception is because RMS power is often specified at a specific distortion level, typically 1% or less for automotive amplifiers. You can of course increase output power past what is rated for 1% THD, but distortion increases as the output stage begins to clip.

Here's a practical example of the difference between RMS and peak: the 120 volts AC that comes from your wall outlet actually swings from -170 to 170 volts at a rate of 60 cycles per second. 170 * sqrt(2)/2 = 120. The sqrt(2)/2 factor comes out of the equation that AudioNutz mentioned, when the waveform is a sinusoid. The conversion factor is different for different waveforms like sawtooth, square wave, etc. If you were to apply 120 volts RMS to a resistive load, it would dissipate the same power as if you applied 120 volts DC to the same load - even though the AC signal swings from -170 to 170 volts.
 
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I agree with the others. Crutchfield will steer you in the right direction. I have used them and have bought all of my audio equipment from them.
 
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