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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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4 inch lift question

I'm getting ready to purchase a 4 inch lift kit. My question is from searching and recalling, 4 inch is the biggest I can go without getting into drivelines, brake lines etc. If I get the drop pitman arm does that fix the ttb tire eating issue? Is there a particular brand thats the best? Lastly, I see a lot of f-150 kits listed in my year range, but I don't want the decreased payload. Can I go ahead and buy an f350 kit which will increase my payload rating, or is that not the result?


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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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F350 will not work because they have a solid axle and you have ttb. As far as the drop pitman arm, most of the time it's because with a 4 inch lift people feel invicible and go wheel it, thus messing up allignment. Although it does mess with alignment, it won't throw it completly out of wack. Nothin a good allignment won't fix after installation. As for payload, if your worried about that, don't get a lift. If u pull with a 4 inch lift, it will be fine, but with that said, it will be "nose happy" and the front will be way up in the air.

Lifts are for wheelers and show queens. Pullin is not there specialty
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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Yeah I am not pulling much but I will pull on occasion. I wasn't aware 80-86 ever had solids in f350s?I thought they were just bigger springs and such?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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F350s got solid axles in 87, 80-86 was all TTB.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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Go to the 4x4 Forums and post this question there. Youll have better answers there.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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86 was the reintroduction of the D60 monobeam front axle, prolly even late 85.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 10:43 PM
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I would ask in the other forum but I didn't feel the answers would have been the same as with the people who own these trucks.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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Its up to you I just know from first hand experience they have some great info down there and there are quite a few guys down there who currently own these trucks and have owned them in the past. They were able to give me a step by step info on how to do a D60 swap into a F150 in our years which was something I couldnt get a strait answer to up here.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 11:12 PM
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Actually 85 was the first year Ford brought back the straight axle D60 in F350 4x4s. The D60 I swapped under the front of my 84 F250 came out of an 85 F350 4x4 dually, bolted right in. The 80-84 F350 4x4s actually had a TTB version of the D60. I personally have never seen one but according to my shop manuals they were used. A general rule of thumb, lifted trucks are not the set up of choice for hauling and towing. I imagine a 4" lift would be okay, but still a bit on the tall side. As for buying an F350 lift kit, I doubt it would increase the hauling capacity however some manuafactures specify a different kit for gas and diesel trucks. The diesel lift springs have a higher weight rating due to the heavier engine up front. The other issue you will run into is, if your truck is equipped with TTB (F250) and you order an F350 lift you won't get the drop brackets for the TTB assembly... unless you are planning on swapping in a straight axle when you lift it.
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The 80-84 F350 4x4s actually had a TTB version of the D60.
It was called the dana 50 ttb. It pretty much had dana44 gears with dana 60 spindles and was ttb.

As for buying an F350 lift kit, I doubt it would increase the hauling capacity however some manuafactures specify a different kit for gas and diesel trucks.
We need to quit talking about f250/350 lift kits and f150 lift kits in the same thread. The f150 is a totally different animal underneath the front compared to a f250/350. No way will a f250/350 lift kit even begin to work with a f150 suspension.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
It was called the dana 50 ttb. It pretty much had dana44 gears with dana 60 spindles and was ttb.


We need to quit talking about f250/350 lift kits and f150 lift kits in the same thread. The f150 is a totally different animal underneath the front compared to a f250/350. No way will a f250/350 lift kit even begin to work with a f150 suspension.
Actually a D50 (9" ring gear) does not use the same R&P as a D44 (8.5" ring gear), if you look up gear sets in the aftermarket they are numbered and listed differently. You can however bolt a D50 center section in place of a D44 on the TTB front end. The D50 and D44 axleshafts have the same spline count at the carrier but the D50 shafts are larger in diameter and have bigger u-joints. The D50 and D60 spindles do not interchange, the bolt pattern to which they bolt to the knuckles is much bigger on a D60. The only interchangable parts between the D50 and D60 is the hubs, wheel bearings, spindle nuts and washers, rotors, and lockouts. A monobeam D60 will bolt right in place of ether of the TTB front ends on an F250. Older trucks may require drilling of a couple holes in the crossmember for the track bar bracket. I know all this to be 100% accurate and true because I just did a D60 swap just a couple months ago.
I must have misunderstood Glovemeister, I thought he was talking about lifting an F250. I have to agree, without extensive modification... an F250/F350 lift kit will not work on an F150.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pkupman82
Actually a D50 (9" ring gear) does not use the same R&P as a D44 (8.5" ring gear), if you look up gear sets in the aftermarket they are numbered and listed differently. You can however bolt a D50 center section in place of a D44 on the TTB front end. The D50 and D44 axleshafts have the same spline count at the carrier but the D50 shafts are larger in diameter and have bigger u-joints. The D50 and D60 spindles do not interchange, the bolt pattern to which they bolt to the knuckles is much bigger on a D60. The only interchangable parts between the D50 and D60 is the hubs, wheel bearings, spindle nuts and washers, rotors, and lockouts. A monobeam D60 will bolt right in place of ether of the TTB front ends on an F250. Older trucks may require drilling of a couple holes in the crossmember for the track bar bracket. I know all this to be 100% accurate and true because I just did a D60 swap just a couple months ago.
I must have misunderstood Glovemeister, I thought he was talking about lifting an F250. I have to agree, without extensive modification... an F250/F350 lift kit will not work on an F150.
I appreciate the advice everyone. I was concerned as I say f150 lift kits in most places and the f250s and 350s are harder to come by. I assumed an f150 would lower my weight ratings/hauling capacities, while an f250 would be the same, and an f350 would be an increase.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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If you own a F150 buy a lift kit for an F150. The same goes for a F250 and F350 dont try and mix lift kits.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 06:01 PM
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I appreciate it, I thought I may be able to try some tricky **** stuff and increase my ratings as I have a full floater rear and same as dana 50 TTB. I will go ahead and get the F250 kit.
 
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