MORE HELP PLEASE!!!!!
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X2 on F250's post, if ya got some burnt, then the rest won't work well. Some kind of deal with the 87+ GP system, that they'll only fire for a few seconds when one or more plugs are burnt out...but I haven't taken the time to read and learn how that system works.
X2 on F250's post, if ya got some burnt, then the rest won't work well. Some kind of deal with the 87+ GP system, that they'll only fire for a few seconds when one or more plugs are burnt out...but I haven't taken the time to read and learn how that system works.
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if you have autolites in there, that is why it will not start.
plug it in for at least 4 hours, and it should fire rite up. if it does, you have nothing more than bad glow plugs.
plug it in for at least 4 hours, and it should fire rite up. if it does, you have nothing more than bad glow plugs.
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i dropped the tank today and the sucker tube wasnt broken off so i wasted that whole time for nothing which really sucks cause it was a pain and also im thinkin that leading to tell me i have bad IP and injectors?
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Your block heater could very possibly be burnt out.
And without glow plugs, getting the engine to run will be rather hard with the temps most of the country is seeing right now.
Cylinder temp of very close to 500 degrees before the fuel will ignite.
Are you getting some white smoke out of the exhaust when you are trying to start it?
If so, you are getting fuel, just not enough heat for it to burn.
Do you have an ohm meter?
If so read the resistance across the flat blades of the block heater plug and post what it is.
Then remove the glow plug connector at each glow plug and get an ohm reading on each of them.
Ideal ohm reading, .5 to 1 ohm each.
And without glow plugs, getting the engine to run will be rather hard with the temps most of the country is seeing right now.
Cylinder temp of very close to 500 degrees before the fuel will ignite.
Are you getting some white smoke out of the exhaust when you are trying to start it?
If so, you are getting fuel, just not enough heat for it to burn.
Do you have an ohm meter?
If so read the resistance across the flat blades of the block heater plug and post what it is.
Then remove the glow plug connector at each glow plug and get an ohm reading on each of them.
Ideal ohm reading, .5 to 1 ohm each.
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by checking the shrader valve or whatever it is? i checked that i couldnt test pressure because i dont have anything to test it with but i unscrew the valve part in the middle and cranked it and seemed to have a good flow of fuel
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Your block heater could very possibly be burnt out.
And without glow plugs, getting the engine to run will be rather hard with the temps most of the country is seeing right now.
Cylinder temp of very close to 500 degrees before the fuel will ignite.
Are you getting some white smoke out of the exhaust when you are trying to start it?
If so, you are getting fuel, just not enough heat for it to burn.
Do you have an ohm meter?
If so read the resistance across the flat blades of the block heater plug and post what it is.
Then remove the glow plug connector at each glow plug and get an ohm reading on each of them.
Ideal ohm reading, .5 to 1 ohm each.
And without glow plugs, getting the engine to run will be rather hard with the temps most of the country is seeing right now.
Cylinder temp of very close to 500 degrees before the fuel will ignite.
Are you getting some white smoke out of the exhaust when you are trying to start it?
If so, you are getting fuel, just not enough heat for it to burn.
Do you have an ohm meter?
If so read the resistance across the flat blades of the block heater plug and post what it is.
Then remove the glow plug connector at each glow plug and get an ohm reading on each of them.
Ideal ohm reading, .5 to 1 ohm each.
i think sometimes i see a little bit of white smoke i dont check to often when i crank it tho. i did have on ohm meter till someone stole it. (lesson learned dont loan tools out to people unless you trust them highly!) but i think i will go pick up some glow plugs and new batterys soon
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with fuel coming out of the schrader valve after cranking it, and getting white smoke from the exhaust, that means there is plenty of fuel. 12 volts at the glow plugs when the button is pushed also means the glow plugs are burned out.
with the block heater plugged in, you should be able to hear it working after it has been plugged in for a few minutes. it will sound sorta like bacon cooking when you stick your head into the passenger side wheel well, and listen.
the block heater is in a freeze-out plug hole on the side of the block near the starter
with the block heater plugged in, you should be able to hear it working after it has been plugged in for a few minutes. it will sound sorta like bacon cooking when you stick your head into the passenger side wheel well, and listen.
the block heater is in a freeze-out plug hole on the side of the block near the starter
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i will check plugs and block heater tomorrow i didnt get a chance today. but what about when i put a little bit of starting fluid in it and and it started but died right after? shouldnt it off stayed started and ran on diesel after that or was it just not hot enough yet?
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From: Fort Worth, TX
If you use ether, then make sure you disconnect the glow plugs from the relay and be very conservative with the ether. If it does not stay running, it could be either the lack of proper heat in the cylinders or lack of diesel fuel. It is starting to sound like an injection pump to me. Get the new plugs in and see what happens.
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if you only gave it a very little whiff of ether, it very well could have died because there was not enough heat to keep it running.
the first thing i would check is the block heater, then check to make sure you get power to the glow plugs when someone pushes the button.
if you do have power, just swap in a set of berus and you should be good to go.
if the block heater does not work, it could just be a bad plug end. i have had to replace 2 of them so far on my 88.
the first thing i would check is the block heater, then check to make sure you get power to the glow plugs when someone pushes the button.
if you do have power, just swap in a set of berus and you should be good to go.
if the block heater does not work, it could just be a bad plug end. i have had to replace 2 of them so far on my 88.