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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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First Ford 12V System??

Hi All - A number of years ago my dad took a 272 out of a 55 F-600 and put it in the 54 M-350 that I now have. At the same time he changed over to 12V. I am 99% sure that the 55 was a 12V system and is where he obtained the components for the 12V change over. Some how I always thought 55 was the year Ford changed to 12V but from what I am reading here it was 56 - correct?? Was 12V an option prior to 56? Looking through my 48 - 56 Ford Truck Parts Book it seems that 12V was available quite some time prior to 56 but haven't had time to really study this. Does any one know if this is correct or not? Thank you for any input.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 10:40 PM
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AFAIK, 1956 was the first year for 12 volts in both cars and trucks. Some of Ford's diesel tractors had it before then, but that's the only exception that I'm aware of.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 10:45 PM
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For US production, 1956 was the year for changeover from 6 to 12 volts. I wouldn't think Ford of Canada would do anything that radical as to switch before Ford USA, but I don't know for sure. I've never heard of 12 volts being an option on any passenger car or light truck from Ford prior to 1956.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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Thanks Guys for the reply. This has been bugging me for quite awhile thats why I was looking in the parts book last night. Found quite a few references to 12V prior to 56 but I have a hard time reading smaller print under artificial light. Will have to wait till day off (Sunday) so I can study it in day light and then post what I'm reading, maybe I'm not reading it right. By the way my parts books are from the U.S., no reference to Mercs what so ever, wish they were Canadian. Like I said before - almost positive the 55 he wrecked was on 12V. I know he wouldn't buy something he could get free.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 11:13 PM
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Seems to me that, If my memory serves me correctly, we had 12 volt systems up here in Canada in 1954 or am I thinking GM.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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For US production, 1956 was the year for changeover from 6 to 12 volts. I wouldn't think Ford of Canada would do anything that radical as to switch before Ford USA, but I don't know for sure. I've never heard of 12 volts being an option on any passenger car or light truck from Ford prior to 1956.
Hi Wayne - We always seem to come up with mystery's don't we.Will be doing a post on last mystery soon. Note - Hopefully I can get some info off to you on Monday.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 12:08 AM
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Well, I always did like a good mystery. Alfred Hitchcock movies are among my favorites.

So, you made me look. I got out my catalog and sure enough, there's plenty of references of 12 volt parts back as early as 1952. Generators, regulators, starters, lamps of all sorts. I guess it's still not too late in the day to learn something new. Obviously there was a 12V option.

 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 03:52 AM
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What about the Big Job trucks? I wonder if they ran a 12V system to handle all the extra trailer lights, etc.?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 04:11 AM
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Thru 1955: 6V positive ground / 1956 and later: 12V negative ground.

I looked in the battery section (basic part numbers 19653/4) in the 1948/56 truck catalog. 12V batteries listed for 1956, not for previous years.

How are y'all gonna run all those pre 1956 12V starters, generators and etc if Ford didn't offer a 12V battery until 1956?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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In my original 1948-55 Ford Truck Chassis Parts catalog, it lists on page 495, 52-55 C,D,J,JH,Y,T,TH,TL,W,WH 6&8 All 12 volt battery 10.25"x8.34"x7.82", part # B3T-10655-A.

12 volt regulator, 52-55 (same apps) All, 60 amp, use with 12 volt 4 brush type generator, 19B-10505-A. That generator is #FAE-10002-A

I gotta admit, this was all a surprise to me.

Hope this helps.

 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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A better question...when did Ford stop using 6V gauges?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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I wonder if the 12 volt stuff before 56 was for engines built for industrial use, like pumps , construction site generators ,ect. ?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jim collins
I wonder if the 12 volt stuff before 56 was for engines built for industrial use, like pumps , construction site generators ,ect. ?
When I first looked at the catalog, I was looking at light bulbs and they had applications listed for F5 and 6 trucks, so I thought it had something to do with larger trucks only. But as I dug deeper, the application list on the major electrical components covered all trucks from F-1/100 all the way up, from model year 1952. There must have been some kind of option available or the listings wouldn't have been in the book. My catalog is dated November 1954. The truck chassis parts catalog doesn't cover industrial engines and equipment, so I don't know what they would be. All I can say, and all I am saying, is the info I have shows replacement parts being available for 12V systems on trucks from 1952. And I find that very interesting. ;-)
 
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Originally Posted by 52 Merc
When I first looked at the catalog, I was looking at light bulbs and they had applications listed for F5 and 6 trucks, so I thought it had something to do with larger trucks only. But as I dug deeper, the application list on the major electrical components covered all trucks from F-1/100 all the way up, from model year 1952. There must have been some kind of option available or the listings wouldn't have been in the book. My catalog is dated November 1954. The truck chassis parts catalog doesn't cover industrial engines and equipment, so I don't know what they would be. All I can say, and all I am saying, is the info I have shows replacement parts being available for 12V systems on trucks from 1952. And I find that very interesting. ;-)
Very interesting, maybe somebody will find out what was going on. I remember my 55 passenger and my dads 55 f-100 were 6 volt back then and my 56 passenger i have now is 12 volt.
 
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Very interesting, maybe somebody will find out what was going on. I remember my 55 passenger and my dads 55 f-100 were 6 volt back then and my 56 passenger i have now is 12 volt.
1956 was when the 12 volt electrical system became standard equipment from Ford. It appears it may have been optional much earlier. Kind of like how alternators became standard equipment in the early to mid 60's, depending on the model, but they were optional on certain vehicles from the mid 50's. It's just another one of those top secret things very few people ever knew about.
 
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