ok well first of all this id my first ford truck picked it up for 500 bucks and it has no motor or trans.it is a 51 f-4 i belive and its a dually.

now i had a few questions for you guys.the body doesnt look to bad and the frame is solid.the floors are kinda bad will need patch work.the flatbed is done for also.

now my plans for it is to make it a work truck and car hauler.and i want to keep the dually.and i will put a modern flatbed on it with a 5th wheel hitch.

the truck used to be a v8 and a stick.

now my plans for the engine would be like a 428 or 460 with a c6 trans out of like a 74-79 250 or 350.

and one more thing i have a 78 ford f350 dually at my huse for a parts truck.will that dually rear end bolt up into the f4.

thanks for the help.

 

I guess I'll be first to welcome you. What part of the state are you in? You might go into your user id area and post your location in the upper right hand corner of your postings.

Nice starting point for your project. Your truck is the deluxe cab model, called a 5 Star Extra cab. And looks to have no severe rust. The rear of your F-350 will mount ok but you'd have to change spring perches and you'd have a wider track than your stock Timken. Plus you'll have 8 lug x 6.5" bolt pattern on the back with the stock 5 lug x 8" up front. So you'd have to carry two spares. A better swap would be a Dana 70 out of a Dodge based motor home from the 1970s since it would have the same bolt pattern. Plus you'd then want to grab the 19.5" wheels from the motor home to replace your stock two piece "widowmaker" style 18" or 20" tube types. We can go deeper into wheel issues later if you want. If you wanted to change the front to a match your F-350 rear axle you'd have some engineering to do. Guys have done it but it's not simple. A 460/C6 would be a good swap. I've got a similar set up tucked away with a future project in mind. Stu

 

ok thanks ill look around for a dana 70 and see if i could find and as for the front i think i might leave it how its since i dont do suspension work at all.

yea and for rust the outside really only has surface rust thats it.

and will post more pics soon.

 

so does anybody no if the 460 and c6 trans line up pretty good with little mod.or will it drop right in and all i have to worry about is motor mounts.

 

You will probably have to make some modification with the transmission crossmember and of course fabricate the motor and transmission mounts.
You can leave the front end as is, but really check everything out and make sure it's all tight.
Truckdog62563 mentioned the 'widowmakers' and it is something that you need to look into. Replacing your wheels is a must if you plan on using it as you described. You also will want to do some major brake changes.

 

Here's a Craigs List ad in Tampa for an axle with wheels. Kinda far, but price is right. Or maybe somebody else closer will want to ****** it up. Stu

Dana 70 Rear Motor Home

 

Stang3191,

Welcome to the FTE. My name is Lance Hogan and I live in Charleston, Illinois. There are several of us here on the FTE that are from Illinois.

I have a 1955 F100 and have a lot to learn about F2,F3,ect....

Lance

 

Stang3191,

Welcome to the FTE. There are a lot of us here from Illinois.

I would suggest that you listen well to what they are telling you about what works and what doesn't as they have been there and done that. In particular the tires and rims need to go as they can kill you. I hope I made that plain enough...

It looks like you have a solid body to start with so good luck and keep us posted.

jim

 

Hey welcome from another Illinois boy! I'm close to Peoria.I have been down your way many times,always work related.

 

thanks everybody going to start working on it next weekend hopefully.going to pull the flateb out.tear the front clip down and remove all the brakes and rear end and start on the supsnsion.


now are the interior parts the same as the f-1 like i need a seat,some dash parts,carpet and headliner and some other small stuff.

 

The only difference in the f1/f3 is the size of the wheel wells on the f3 are bigger, everything else is the same, all interior parts are the same, welcome to FTE, Garry AKA HOMADE.

 

ok thanks

so does anyone have any pics of early 50's duallys with a dana 70?

or with a 460/c6 set up

 

Don't have a pic of the Dana 70, but here's a pic of a truck said to have an Eaton from an IHC. IHCs up into the '70s used the same 5 lug pattern on their 1.5 and 2.0 tons. The guy in above CL posting says his axle has a 4.10 gear. As I understand the Eatons had maybe a wider range of ring and pinion options available.

One last warning. Before you start getting heroic with this truck you need to do a few thread searches or Google searches of the term "widowmakers". Maybe also Google the technical term "Firestone RH-5°". Stu

 

yeah i already no about the windowmakers.if i use my 350 dually rear end i already have a set of wheels for it and i would have to just find a set to replace the front wheel.

 

there ain't no one from illinoizee here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we all live in a corn field in the middle of da' country !!!!!!!!!!!! welcome and where were you when i sold my 49 f4 that ran with a flatty , heavy 4 and the dump bed even worked ................. LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!