Disembodied/Ghost titles
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From: Palatka, Florida
I bought a 95 parts truck and cut the vin and kept the title to it before i took it to the scrap yard. In case i need to title a 95 reg. long bed truck. just like my buddy happens to have as a mud truck missing the title.
I know someone that had a old dodge that his dad gave him. He restored it and then when it got done he had no title. The lady at the junkyard sold him a title a vin out of a truck.(SO ILLEGAL)lol. He transplanted the vin into his truck and now happily drives his 86 dodge around with no trouble.
He has been pulled over and everything checked out, or if it didnt the cop didnt check so....
I know someone that had a old dodge that his dad gave him. He restored it and then when it got done he had no title. The lady at the junkyard sold him a title a vin out of a truck.(SO ILLEGAL)lol. He transplanted the vin into his truck and now happily drives his 86 dodge around with no trouble.
He has been pulled over and everything checked out, or if it didnt the cop didnt check so....
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From: LaGrange
__said before Krewat.
Ghost-titles are active-live, taxes paid up to date titles,
with VIN tag, VIN sticker, & sometimes the license plate.
Just have no physical body.
So unless you have kept the title alive, & taxes paid up to date.
All they really are is just keepsakes.
& yeah I have a few keepsake titles too...
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From: Waterloo IL
Somewhat on the subject. Does anyone know of a cheaper option then Broadway title to get titles for old motorcycles? A freind of mine has an old XR600 Honda that he wants to put a dual sport kit on and license but he doesn't have a title. Broadway title can get him one but it costs like $400. There is no way to track down the original owner, DMV can't help. It seems almost impossible to do but if Broadway title can do it, then it's obviously possible. Either they are the middle man and there must be a way to cut them out. lol. Or they have a procedure that is kept secret. You can't just go to the DMV and get a "lost title" or get one using a bill of sale or anything like that. Most people think its that easy but it is definitely not. If we can figure this out I've got a few old bikes I'd probably do to.
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From: Pennsylvania
in Virginia, where i live, if you lose your title you can file for a lost title. but you have to have the Vin# off the door. so basically all a ghost title is is a title with no car. the title has no physical car body to go with it right? and they are just keeping the title for keepsake or for loans, or other scams? this is a confusing subject
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From: The Big, Oregon
Most states have a legal means of replacing a title. Here, you send a certified letter to the previous owner (sheriff can provide some help) asking for a release of title form to be filled out. If they are not contactable, then the letter gets returned and you take that back to the sheriff's office, they send a deputy out to inspect the vin on the vehicle, and if it comes back as clean and not stolen, they give you a form to give to the DMV to have a new title printed. If there is no VIN, then a VIN can be assigned.
I am going through this with five snowmobiles right now, none have titles.
I am going through this with five snowmobiles right now, none have titles.
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From: Long Beach, Ms.
The frame has nothing to do with the VIN.
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The truck that this went under had the VIN from the cab.
The only VIN that is valid is the one on the dash.
Doors are replaced every day also.
There are VIN stickers all over Toyotas as chop shop deterrents.
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[/IMG]The truck that this went under had the VIN from the cab.
The only VIN that is valid is the one on the dash.
Doors are replaced every day also.
There are VIN stickers all over Toyotas as chop shop deterrents.
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From: Long Island USA
It's funny when people talk about "taxes paid" on titles. Here in New York, there are no taxes like that. Just the title. If you don't have the vehicle on the road, there is no registration fees, nothing, to keep the title "active".
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From: The Big, Oregon
On most Ford trucks, the VIN is stamped on the frame, either on the right front, front crossmember, or left behind the steering box. How pissed do you think someone would be if they bought a truck, had to do some repairs and found that the VIN on the chassis is not the same as the VIN on the dash/door/glovebox?
If the title is lost, replace it. If the truck is anything but stolen, there are legal ways to title it. Changing the VIN is not one of those ways.
If the title is lost, replace it. If the truck is anything but stolen, there are legal ways to title it. Changing the VIN is not one of those ways.
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From: LaGrange
Ok,
__the reason that Ghost-titles came into existence was keeping good steel alive.
How it generally works is like replacing parts.
Like patching a body panel, you remove the bad/damaged piece then put in a clean solid replacement.
But with Ghost-titling it works on a different scale.
You take all matching ID tags (VIN-tag, VIN-sticker, VIN from frame) & move them to what would be a duplicate vehicle body & frame.
THEN, recycle/scrap/junk the old body & frame.
What makes it a Ghost-title is the length of time between the transfer of said ID's to a suitable body & frame.
I've heard of some spending years looking for a duplicate body.
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It's just that some "make a quick buck" people are trying to take advantage of this trade, by cutting some corners.
Doing things like cobbling scavenged/stolen parts then trying to pass it off as whole to the unwary buyer.
Or building a KIT/clone car & trying to pass it as a high $$$ original.
Like said before, if there is too much info missing. Walk away.
__the reason that Ghost-titles came into existence was keeping good steel alive.
How it generally works is like replacing parts.
Like patching a body panel, you remove the bad/damaged piece then put in a clean solid replacement.
But with Ghost-titling it works on a different scale.
You take all matching ID tags (VIN-tag, VIN-sticker, VIN from frame) & move them to what would be a duplicate vehicle body & frame.
THEN, recycle/scrap/junk the old body & frame.
What makes it a Ghost-title is the length of time between the transfer of said ID's to a suitable body & frame.
I've heard of some spending years looking for a duplicate body.
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It's just that some "make a quick buck" people are trying to take advantage of this trade, by cutting some corners.
Doing things like cobbling scavenged/stolen parts then trying to pass it off as whole to the unwary buyer.
Or building a KIT/clone car & trying to pass it as a high $$$ original.
Like said before, if there is too much info missing. Walk away.