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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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Dude, you are quick. Thanks!
The "SEARCH" function is as quick as your internet connection.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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The "SEARCH" function is as quick as your internet connection.
Ouch! You hurt me deep, Shrek!
 
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Ouch! You hurt me deep, Shrek!
Not meant to hurt, just a reminder.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 87crewdually
Not meant to hurt, just a reminder.
Naw, no hurt here. I actually did quite a bit of searching, but I guess not enough or searching incorrectly. But the info I have gained through this posting has been invaluable. Everybody here is really great!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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Naw, no hurt here. I actually did quite a bit of searching, but I guess not enough or searching incorrectly. But the info I have gained through this posting has been invaluable. Everybody here is really great!
Alot of knowledge here for sure and most have a good approach with helping anyone out.
Since you have enough posts now, why don't you work on your signature (the display on the bottom of your posts) so when you post people will know what you got so we can post more accurately......just saying.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 87crewdually
Alot of knowledge here for sure and most have a good approach with helping anyone out.
Since you have enough posts now, why don't you work on your signature (the display on the bottom of your posts) so when you post people will know what you got so we can post more accurately......just saying.
Wilco. Tried once and failed, but that has been some time ago.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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There right here?

So ATS doesn't even give you the turbine housing, just an elbow and down-pipe for $500?? What a ripoff. I guess its worth it for some though.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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So ATS doesn't even give you the turbine housing, just an elbow and down-pipe for $500?? What a ripoff. I guess its worth it for some though.
I dont know. He said in an earlier post that you get the housing also. But if you have that elbow, i don't know why you would need it. Unless the opening from the housing is enlarged also?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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So you are saying that you will use the existing 2 1/4 inch outlet and attach a 3" pipe? Will the 3" pipe increase airflow even though the outlet remains the same?

To answer this one, yes, absolutely. The restriction of gas flow is due to friction against the pipe walls, which increases with gas velocity. Gas velocity for any given flow is lower in a bigger pipe, hence less resistance. Even if your pipe was only 1/2" bigger for the last inch of it, it would still have less resistance to flow than a straight pipe.

Now that's for getting bigger. Changing direction and flowing from larger to smaller diameters adds friction due to "shock loss".

The message is that increasing the size of the pipe at any point and reducing bends improves flow.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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I added a fresh air intake myself a while back. I cut a hole in the intake attached a water heater vent and routed it to beside the radiator. I couldn't tell much difference, but then I did nothing to the exhaust.

I am interested to see how that pipe you bought turns out. If you don't mind, let us know.
I won't be able to compare. I just bought this motor, never started it. I am going through everything before I put it in my truck. (no surprises).

Check out this info.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...r-exhaust.html
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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To answer this one, yes, absolutely. The restriction of gas flow is due to friction against the pipe walls, which increases with gas velocity. Gas velocity for any given flow is lower in a bigger pipe, hence less resistance. Even if your pipe was only 1/2" bigger for the last inch of it, it would still have less resistance to flow than a straight pipe.

Now that's for getting bigger. Changing direction and flowing from larger to smaller diameters adds friction due to "shock loss".

The message is that increasing the size of the pipe at any point and reducing bends improves flow.
That makes sense. Following that logic then, it would improve performance to enlarge the pipe further down the line also. I am not sure what the diameter of the stock pipe under the truck is, but maybe I will change that out also.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Yea, I have been looking at those post also. I hope your motor checks out good. I would love to do something like that, just don't have the time right now. Maybe when I retire.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Ok, for what it's worth, if you have a completely sock Ford IDI turbo, the ATS 3" outlet and down pipe is probably the best value around. You can't really go bigger, and everything else you do to the truck to increase performance will be affected by the turbo set up.

Without an inter-cooler, EGT is the big limiter for IDI turbo. I have the 3" elbow/down pipe. Every single change I have made to increase exhaust flow has reduced EGT above 2000 RPM.

Anything you can do to increase the pressure differential between pre-turbo and post-turbo on the exhaust will increase boost/performance and tend to reduce EGT.

For my money the ATS 3" outlet/downpipe is a no brainer. Doing anything else just seems half assed and something that you will either regret, or be replacing when you are looking for more power.

For me, the cheapest route is usually going big right from the start. Every single half-way upgrade has usually found me replacing it with something bigger/better later.

Given the limited number of upgrade parts available for the IDI, you might as well buy the right parts that are available.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Ok, for what it's worth, if you have a completely sock Ford IDI turbo, the ATS 3" outlet and down pipe is probably the best value around. You can't really go bigger, and everything else you do to the truck to increase performance will be affected by the turbo set up.

Without an inter-cooler, EGT is the big limiter for IDI turbo. I have the 3" elbow/down pipe. Every single change I have made to increase exhaust flow has reduced EGT above 2000 RPM.

Anything you can do to increase the pressure differential between pre-turbo and post-turbo on the exhaust will increase boost/performance and tend to reduce EGT.

For my money the ATS 3" outlet/downpipe is a no brainer. Doing anything else just seems half assed and something that you will either regret, or be replacing when you are looking for more power.

For me, the cheapest route is usually going big right from the start. Every single half-way upgrade has usually found me replacing it with something bigger/better later.

Given the limited number of upgrade parts available for the IDI, you might as well buy the right parts that are available.
I went to the ATS site and could not find the items you are speaking of. I found the down pipe but not the outlet. Maybe I just need to call them.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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I went to the ATS site and could not find the items you are speaking of. I found the down pipe but not the outlet. Maybe I just need to call them.
The ATS website kinda blows. I would give them a call. They will probably tell you it is back-ordered or something lame like that. If so, i would get on the list. At some point they will stop making the parts.
 
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