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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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but as stated previously, 4x4 and open diffs isn't that much better than a 2x4, and tires are a huge factor. hell, i got stuck in a flat yard on wet grass in my old f350. two reasons, open diffs and crappy tires.
Yep, I've already gotten the F150 stuck on a road with the open diffs in 4wd. Had my roommates come out and push me back to the curb and out of the way. A few minutes later I took my FWD Monte Carlo and it did just fine thanks to the traction control that I figure is somewhat close to LSD. In my driving experience so far, ~6 years is all, I've learned that FWD with traction control and snow tires works better in snow under 12" than my 4x4 with open diffs and A/Ts.

At highway speed I find the lower center of gravity of the car to help a lot more with ice than the pickup does.

Winter stories?

I once had the Monte Carlo rotate just a few degrees past sideways because of slush. With the FWD I was able to point the tires back the right way and let it pull itself back to straight on the highway. I have also put it through a 360+ spin on the interstate but luckily did not end up in the ditch nor catch enough dry to flip me.

I put my sister's '05 Silverado 8.1 into the ditch the first night I drove it. Stepped on the gas enough for it to downshift two gears and the rear end led me into the ditch. Put it into 4x4 and was able to drive it right out.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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yer sister drives a big block 4x4??? granted its a chevy, but i gotta ask, is she hot????
pics plz!!!!
why the hell do i care, i'm married
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fatdan460
yer sister drives a big block 4x4??? granted its a chevy, but i gotta ask, is she hot????
pics plz!!!!
why the hell do i care, i'm married
X2......both instances..lol
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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Haha, she needs something to pull her horses around with.

She took this when we went out to get a tree for Christmas.


Or did you mean photos of her

This 3500HD totally sucks in the snow even with the 4x4 because of the tires. She's gotten it stuck plenty.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 02:26 PM
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tires or driver?? jk man that color is ugly wow
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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looks like what forest patrol/conservation vehicles used to use. my buddy had an old jeep cherokee that was an ex patrol in that color.




still waiting on sis pics
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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Up until 2 years ago I'd be on here saying you don't need 4 wheel drive to get around in the winter, hell if you wanna get real technical I'd argue you don't need fuel injection or abs brakes either.
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fatdan460
yer sister drives a big block 4x4??? granted its a chevy, but i gotta ask, is she hot????
pics plz!!!!
why the hell do i care, i'm married
You can send cards to Dan, c/o General Hospital, Room 203, he is expected to be out of the full body cast by sometime early summer.


As for snow stories... where to start? A 67 Mustang, 289 Hi-po, Stick and 60 series tires? (Believe it or not, did not get stuck, altho the speedo was showing 80 when I topped the hill around 5mph, LOL), getting snowed in out in Wyoming for 2 days when they shut the interstate down? Probably the best one was moving a 15' wide load the day after the blizzard and watching the sides of the load plow the snow as I went down the road... took 5 hours to go just over 100 miles that day.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lio45
Yeah, but all the important places are within that 1%, so you could argue you don't need 4x4 :-P
Define Important.

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And as 70torino said, by your logic, you should immediately replace that 4x4 truck with a boat!
...and as I already replied to 70torino, I'm going to "find a way to make my truck float!"
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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I'm going to "find a way to make my truck float!"

YouTube - Kaninyaei Monster Truck in the water
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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That is soooo cool. I want one.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 6CylBill
I tell you one thing, for a boy who grew up in Southeast Texas, I need 4x4. I just have no idea how to handle this white sky poop. Every time I think I get a handle for it I find myself in a sticky situation.

I'm stuck with a two wheeler for now so I reckon I better learn fast!
Try a pair of studded snow tires
 
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Gervais
The narrower the tire, the better it will be in the snow. When I switched to the 31's, they sort of plow through the snow, as opposed to getting a good bite, if that makes sense. Feels like the truck is floating over it, and it definitely felt more stable with the smaller tires.

I wouldn't call it unsafe, and it may just be a characteristic of these tires (Good Year RT/S). They're not very aggressive.
A narrower tire isnt always going to give you better traction, actually the width has very little to do with what some are having an issue with. From the very first of this thread, sorry man, a 4x4 is not what you need to stop. Back to the tire size issue, the tread design is the key and it doesnt matter how wide the tire may be, also in some parts of the USA and any area of the world that gets snow, the tire compound is also key as in an actual snow tire.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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A narrower tire isnt always going to give you better traction, actually the width has very little to do with what some are having an issue with. From the very first of this thread, sorry man, a 4x4 is not what you need to stop. Back to the tire size issue, the tread design is the key and it doesnt matter how wide the tire may be, also in some parts of the USA and any area of the world that gets snow, the tire compound is also key as in an actual snow tire.
Tread design is key, but if you give me two tires of equal tread design, the narrower of the two will ALWAYS have better traction in the snow and ice.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Samsonitesamsonite
Tread design is key, but if you give me two tires of equal tread design, the narrower of the two will ALWAYS have better traction in the snow and ice.
I'm going to have to disagree, just because I like causing trouble.

On Ice, yes. On, snow... sometimes. If the snow is not incredibly deep then yes. If your looking at snow that's really deep, it may be a bad thing to sink to the point where you are dragging your axles. If you have a good tread design that can get traction on the snow itself rather than having to sink the the pavement, staying above the snow can be beneficial. If you are traveling at high speeds, then flotation tires are just not a good idea in bad weather.

In the winter, I want to be able to pull out other vehicles, so I keep my wider tread A/T tires and add maximum weight to my mounty.
 
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