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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Considering what I see so far, i am inclined to believe it is something mechanical:

After running for about 30 seconds, the engine makes the sound as if the tranny is put into gear and then the o/d light starts blinking. I can manually shift in from 1-2 but it doesn't shift up when left in D.

I finally got a hold of my buddy that works at a stealer and hope he can make it out today or tomorrow.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Have you called and see if Brian can make a SWAG at what the problem could be? That way when they list off the codes, it might make more sense to you
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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I want to get the codes read before I bug him. I hope it will be as easy as swapping out the VB to get it fixed.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Tranny guy was able to work on truck today. his guys changed out solenoids, springs, sensor (solenoid pack) and put new oil and filter. Now it shift fine, but it give the following codes:

P0713 --> TRANS FLUID TEMP (TFT) SENSOR INPUT BELOW MIN VOLTAGE (my truck does not have a factory tranny temp gauge)
P0605 --> Internal Control Module ROM Error (this i am guessing is from the 80e tune)

Any ideas?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by empiretc
Tranny guy was able to work on truck today. his guys changed out solenoids, springs, sensor and put new oil and filter. Now it shift fine, but it give the following codes:

P0713 --> TRANS FLUID TEMP (TFT) SENSOR INPUT BELOW MIN VOLTAGE (my truck does not have a factory tranny temp gauge)
P0605 --> Internal Control Module ROM Error (this i am guessing is from the 80e tune)

Any ideas?
Sounds like someone forgot to hook up a wire or the data feed to the ECM is bad. Maybe a loose connector or a bent pin?

Suggest you get calling 870-422-3673 and hold for an answer.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Things are getting a little shaky with the tech. I don't want to take the truck and have it fail shortly there after. I was reading the following info:

P0713 is a TCM code. It indicates that the ATF sensor is reading too high a temperature. This will occur if the sensor wiring is shorted to ground or the sensor itself is grounded.

If the transmission pan was removed when changing the fluid, one would suspect that the temperature sensor wiring may be pinched by the pan, filter, or a bolt causing it to be shorted to ground. If the pan wasn't removed, then this is significantly less likely.

You can clear the code to see if it returns. Whether it returns, and how long it takes to reoccur if it does return will tell you whether this is an ongoing problem or something more intermittent.

If you determine that the issue is constant, unplug the temperature sensor at the transmission. After you've done this, you should ordinarily return a code P0712 (low temperature error). If you receive that code back, then the issue is inside the transmission (either the wiring inside or the temperature sensor itself). If you still receive a P0713 after clearing with the connector unplugged, your short circuit is external to the transmission.

I am going to get them to try this tomorrow. Hopefully we will get somewhere.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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Trouble Codes P0603 and/or P0605:
Some PowerStroke trucks may exhibit codes related to keep alive memory--KAM (P0603); or read only memory--ROM (P0605). P0603 may be set if the batteries or computer are disconnected. On the 7.3 P0603 can be cleared by running the engine for at least 30 seconds, thn clearing all codes. For the P0605 the computer should be reprogrammed with the latest available calibration. Broadcast Message 1076.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Do you think the P0605 error is causing the P0713 to remain?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Do you think the P0605 error is causing the P0713 to remain?
IDK. Have you tried taking off the chip and run it for 30 seconds like they said? After that, call Brian
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Well, tech called and said he found the wire that was broken. Said it looked like someone cut it. I will pick the truck up tomorrow and check it out. A friend of mine got screwed by a tranny shop one time- they cut the wire to the o/d light to stop the blinking. I seriously doubt that is the case, but you can never be too careful. I have taken vehicles to this place for over 15 years. The old man is great, but his techs are another story. At any rate, unexpected expense at a horrible time..... Next time, BTS/JW or another truck.

I am convinced there was something wrong in the tranny. I cannot find any electrical failure that would completely prevent it from shifting.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by empiretc
I am convinced there was something wrong in the tranny. I cannot find any electrical failure that would completely prevent it from shifting.
Was it preventing the transmission from shifting; or defueling the engine to prevent shifting?

Take the tranny filter out; if theres anything other than a little smudge from the bands, get concerned, if not, I'd believe it was an electrical / sensor issue.

PS i have been tarred and feathered multiple times for being wrong.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Sounds like someone forgot to hook up a wire or the data feed to the ECM is bad. Maybe a loose connector or a bent pin?

Suggest you get calling 870-422-3673 and hold for an answer.
Alkim, I think calling BTS when you are not buying something from them is something I would not do. They are a busy shop and don't need to answer general transmission problems for the public.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Alkim, I think calling BTS when you are not buying something from them is something I would not do. They are a busy shop and don't need to answer general transmission problems for the public.
Actually, there have been plenty of members here and on other boards that have called Brian and picked his brain and he is totally OK with it. He's not the type of guy to take offense if you are not a paying customer of his. He's that kind of guy.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tdpower
Alkim, I think calling BTS when you are not buying something from them is something I would not do. They are a busy shop and don't need to answer general transmission problems for the public.
I wouldn't ask him to troubleshoot my trans if it was under warranty from say JW or BD, etc, etc, you could look at it as the OP asking Brian if he has a product that will solve his problem. I'd really hate the OP to be doing the "shotgun mechanic" deal and throw parts after parts at it.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponyboychris
Actually, there have been plenty of members here and on other boards that have called Brian and picked his brain and he is totally OK with it. He's not the type of guy to take offense if you are not a paying customer of his. He's that kind of guy.
When I work on my cars, I tend to get too focused on something and need to step back sometimes. That is why I smoke a cigarette. To force myself to take a break. The phone calls are Brian's break time from what I saw when I was there. He takes a break, answers a few calls and gets back to work.
 
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