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Old Dec 19, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Why not take this mod to the next level and trigger the GPR with a manual N/O push-button switch instead of the PCM?

Kwik did just that, and could give a report as to its effectiveness.

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I did just that and still use it today.
Still using the IAH relay as a GPR too.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
I did just that and still use it today.
Still using the IAH relay as a GPR too.
Dan, is the thought behind the manual control to reduce glow plug and GPR usage/wear and tear? I take it the PCM will energize glow plugs at a lower threshold than is really needed for the conditions and manual control allows you to eliminate that usage?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
I did just that and still use it today.
Still using the IAH relay as a GPR too.
Any more detail to offer on your modifications? I'm not sure I'm following this. You're using a manual switch to operate the GPR? Or using the IAH relay to engage the GPR?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulDH
Any more detail to offer on your modifications? I'm not sure I'm following this. You're using a manual switch to operate the GPR? Or using the IAH relay to engage the GPR?
I'll answer for Dan, I'm sure he won't mind.

When his GPR went bad he just replaced it with the AIH relay. Now the AIH relay is the GPR.

The AIH isn't really needed like so many emmisions things.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Thanks PaysonPD,
I wondered if the AIH relay was sufficient to handle the current from the glow plugs. I've disconnected the AIH wires (+ and ground), sawed off the resistor element with a hack saw, but left the AIH relay in place for backup, just in case my Stancor GPR ever goes out on me. Was hoping I could use the AIH relay as a standby - backup GPR. Sounds like Dan has been getting by on the AIH for quite a good long time now, which is great to learn. Good to know my AIH relay would get me out of the woods and back on the highway again if I ever have to connect my GPs to it. Thanks again - and to Dan also for sharing the results of his experiment/experience.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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I'm kinda thinking about going one step further with the LEDs and making my GPR "ON" light red and adding a 12v normally closed relay to trigger a green LED when the GPR deactivates. The GPR will open the relay, turning the green LED off while the red LED is on. May be a little overboard, but kinda cool. What does everybody think?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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Seems like you're trying to indicate red for "wait", and green for "go".

In many, many conditions, there's no need to wait for the GPR to time out before starting your engine, so that seems a lot of trouble to go to.

Just sayin'....

But they're your LEDs, your time, and your truck.

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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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Depending on the brightness of the LED, you may find it annoying at night if the green one is on all the time.

Sounds like your idea would work though!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Waynenap
I think it's easier to go to Walmart and get one of the little plug into the cig. lighter or accesory plug, volt meter gizmos. Tells you everything you need to know plus the voltage while all this is going on.
That's sort of what I did. My Scan Gauge has programmable lights on it, so I set it for 12.5V. They come on when Batt V gets below that, so my "GPR Light" serves two purposes -- tells me when my alt is acting up too. BTW, once the GPs shut off, the voltage goes up almost 2V! Those things really load down the electrical system, so a manual setup like Dan is running will also save wear & tear on the alt...
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulDH
Was hoping I could use the AIH relay as a standby - backup GPR.
If the GPR fails to operate or the contacts fail to close you can just hold a screwdriver across the two large terminals so the GPs heat up. In 5 seconds the tips will glow cherry red and in about 15 seconds the whole length is cherry red.

We all like pics so here's a GP hooked up to a battery charger. There's a reason they are called "Glow" plugs.

 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Great photo, Robin. Picture is worth a thousand........

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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Note to self: After hooking a glow plug up to the charger like shown above. Let cool down for a VERY long time before relocating to another place.

Pulled a dumb-dumb once, thought I was picking up one of the other GP's......figured out real quick I wasn't.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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Sweet pic Robin!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by woodnthings
Note to self: After hooking a glow plug up to the charger like shown above. Let cool down for a VERY long time before relocating to another place.

Pulled a dumb-dumb once, thought I was picking up one of the other GP's......figured out real quick I wasn't.
Just after I took that pic it slipped from the vise and fell in the trash can just below. Holy Smoke, and I do mean SMOKE.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
That's sort of what I did. My Scan Gauge has programmable lights on it, so I set it for 12.5V. They come on when Batt V gets below that, so my "GPR Light" serves two purposes -- tells me when my alt is acting up too. BTW, once the GPs shut off, the voltage goes up almost 2V! Those things really load down the electrical system, so a manual setup like Dan is running will also save wear & tear on the alt...
If you don't have a scan gauge... just buy this Amazon.com: Vector VEC008 Digital LCD Voltmeter, 12 Volt: Automotive
and it will tell you within a .10 of a volt if the GPR is on or off and it also great for checking your alternator voltage.. I leave mine in the cigarette lighter all the time..
 
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