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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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360 differences by year

I have a '73 F100 with the 360 and 4-speed. It's a driver and a work truck, and as such I feel that my 360 makes pretty decent power all things considered. It can more than keep up in traffic, and flat hauls at highway speeds (3.00 9" rear).

That being said, not one to leave well enough alone, I'd like to get my 360 really running tip top. I plan on rebuilding my 2bbl carb, and giving it a full tuneup in the near future.

The specs for this engine drop significantly from 67 on, and I'm curious to what actually changed. I hear the timing set is different, and the timing itself is retarded. I'd like to upgrade and tweak my '73 mill to pre-emissions specs to try and allow it to run as it was originally intended to.

So what are all the differences between a late 60's mill and my '73? I assume the actual heads, cam, intake and carb are the same.

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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mktsc
I have a '73 F100 with the 360 and 4-speed. It's a driver and a work truck, and as such I feel that my 360 makes pretty decent power all things considered. It can more than keep up in traffic, and flat hauls at highway speeds (3.00 9" rear).

That being said, not one to leave well enough alone, I'd like to get my 360 really running tip top. I plan on rebuilding my 2bbl carb, and giving it a full tuneup in the near future.

The specs for this engine drop significantly from 67 on, and I'm curious to what actually changed. I hear the timing set is different, and the timing itself is retarded. I'd like to upgrade and tweak my '73 mill to pre-emissions specs to try and allow it to run as it was originally intended to.

So what are all the differences between a late 60's mill and my '73? I assume the actual heads, cam, intake and carb are the same.

Thanks in advance,

-MK
Can you say EPA? Because all the changes were caused by their moronic rules. The cam timing was retarded 4° for emissions (NOX IIRC) this all happened in 1972. Jacking around with the ignition timing was also something done to placate the EPA Nazies. Another thing was that the horsepower rating system changed from peak horsepower with no accessories,trans or rear end to a system that includes the power robbed by these other systems. So the number for the same engine look a lot worst when in reality they are the same.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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Can I adjust timing at the distributor, or do I actually need the older timing set?

I plan on upgrading to electronic ignition for reliability issues, but what kind of difference does it make in actual power output?

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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:37 AM
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Get a pre-1972 timing set, that'll fix the cam timing. There's no other way to do it.

As for the EPA *****, I'd love to see what big cities and most other areas of the country would be like if emissions rules hadn't been enacted. Yuck. The only "moronic" part of that was what the car manufacturers did to their engines to get them to pass. Can you say Band-aid?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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Thanks for the info. I might do a water pump for good measure in the near future, and while I have everything off the front of the engine, it might be a good time to do the timing set.

Two more questions:
-How hard is it to get the crank pulley off?
-I've heard mixed opinions, will upgrading to electronic ignition actually improve performance?

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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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The dampener (crank pulley) is easy, as long as you have the right tools. A puller is a must.

Electronic MIGHT help is the old distributor is worn out, but what I'd do is if you're going to do the timing set, leave everything as it is, get it back together and running, and THEN upgrade if you want to.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Good call. Change only one ignition variable at a time. Although in all likelihood, I'll probably upgrade the distributor to electronic ignition before I do the timing set. But I see what you're saying.

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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
Get a pre-1972 timing set, that'll fix the cam timing. There's no other way to do it.

As for the EPA *****, I'd love to see what big cities and most other areas of the country would be like if emissions rules hadn't been enacted. Yuck. The only "moronic" part of that was what the car manufacturers did to their engines to get them to pass. Can you say Band-aid?
The trouble with the EPA ***** is that they have gone after care like the ***** did the Jews while letting industry get away with polluting with abandon. Hell if one industry got cleaner than require they got to sell their extra pollution to someone else. They have never let the automotive industry do that, mainly because the ones who pay for the emissions standards, that's all us poor car owners don't count. Besides that the EPA is about power, the enviorment doesn't really matter.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Good point Bear, and we'll leave it at that
 
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