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Old Jan 14, 2003 | 02:45 AM
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when my truck and tranny are cold it will grind and not go into gear when i down shift from 3rd to 2nd and sometimes when i shift from 2nd to 3rd. but when it warms up its fine i dont know whats wrong cuz if it was the syncros wouldnt it do it all the time??
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Old Jan 14, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 01-14-03 AT 12:12 PM (EST)]I wonder if synthetic tranny fluid would help. On my Mazda 5 speed, I generally have to shift slowly when it is cold, holding the lever against the slot until it sort of slides in, else it will chunk a bit (I do run synthetic ATF). Maybe just the way it is with Mazdas. But the ZF is a tougher tranny. Does your tranny run ATF or gear oil? I switched my '84 F150 4 speed to 10w40 motor oil and it was much easier shifting in cold weather.

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Old Jan 14, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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i run plain old ATF in my tranny. its not a faint grinding either when it dosent want to go in it wont!
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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Did you try the tranny forum? Only other thing I can suggest is maybe the clutch is getting pretty far along and that when cold it is not releasing fully and thus continues to turn the input shaft producing the grinding. What happens if you depress the clutch pedal and count to three, then shift. If it doesn't grind then, I would suspect a slight drag that is finally overcome by the friction within the tranny.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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The clutch is good i just had my tranny out and changes the slave cylinder. i can count to ten and it will still grind. but when it does start to work proprerly it shifts very well.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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I am afraid I am an auto repair novice. I am suprised nobody else has jumped in on this thread. I think you should try the tranny forum.
 
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ya i will thanks
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 05:43 PM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 01-15-03 AT 06:45 PM (EST)]Do you have too much oil in the case? That would drag down rotating parts until of course the oil heats and starts to thin. Just a thought. Also check that the slave cylinder is not pushing air. It may need a bleeding.
 
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if those were the problems wouldnt it do it in every gear?
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