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M5R2 grinds going into 3rd gear

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Old 10-28-2009, 12:08 AM
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M5R2 grinds going into 3rd gear

I've got a 93 F150 with mazda 5 speed. I will often hear a grinding noise on the 2-3 shift. No grinding in any other gears, and when I down shift from a higher gear into 3rd it does not grind.

It does not happen 100% of the time, most often I can ease it into 3rd without grinding. Its hard to explain but when it grinds the shifter has a loose feel to it and moves with very little resistance. When it shifts well, it goes into gear with a little resistance and has a firm path to follow.

My first thoughts were the 3rd gear synchro, or worn shift forks. Can anyone offer input based on my limited description of the problem?
 
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:43 AM
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These transmissions are weak. I was very surprised loosing mine at 130k. That was the first sign I noticed before I lost 5th and reverse. But my truck has 35" tires and gets beat around quite a bit causing everything to prematurely wear. From my experience though, and anybody correct me if I'm wrong, that would be syncro wear. I felt exactly the same thing with mine.
 
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:14 AM
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I would say neigh on the shift fork. If that were the deal you'd not be going in gear at all, or the grind would be consistent. Chances are it's a bad syncro. I have this issue going into most of my gears and most particularly third. What I do is haul it out of second without the clutch then clutch in and put it into third. No grinding.
 
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:02 AM
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It's not that hard to pop off the top shifter plate and have a look at the forks. I had a grinding issue but still quite workable and found my forks extremely worn. New ones made it like new. If the forks look good, then it's probably the syncro's. It's also a good time to do a flush and check the rubber plugs on the shifter cover.
 
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Originally Posted by nat13_3
What I do is haul it out of second without the clutch then clutch in and put it into third. No grinding.
I tried this today, it actually shifts quite well. Thanks!!
 
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:38 PM
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It sounds like a syncro except that its ok sometimes, and not other times, but it could be a worn shift fork. Even my 3rd feels really lose, its the only gear that doesnt like to be shifted without the clutch. And i put all new forks in the spring.
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MEDF150
It's not that hard to pop off the top shifter plate and have a look at the forks. I had a grinding issue but still quite workable and found my forks extremely worn. New ones made it like new. If the forks look good, then it's probably the syncro's. It's also a good time to do a flush and check the rubber plugs on the shifter cover.
I may try this over the weekend.
 
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