DSO question, Numberdummy, got a minute?
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DSO question, Numberdummy, got a minute?
I found this old truck years ago sitting in a field, got a chance a couple weekends back to write down some door tag info.
It's at least a little unique to me, but more on that later...
DSO was one thing I was wanting ya to help me with...
Tell me what ya can
F10JL705282
DSO 830153
It's at least a little unique to me, but more on that later...
DSO was one thing I was wanting ya to help me with...
Tell me what ya can
F10JL705282
DSO 830153
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A 65 built in June at the Michigan Truck plant with a 240 six.
DSO 83 is Government. I was ordered by Uncle Sam, State, County or local Municipality.
0153 is the order number. which means it is specially ordered and not bought off the lot. It can mean color or any other host of options.
Garbz
DSO 83 is Government. I was ordered by Uncle Sam, State, County or local Municipality.
0153 is the order number. which means it is specially ordered and not bought off the lot. It can mean color or any other host of options.
Garbz
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I'm sure this is correct but is there anything you can add, Numberdummy?
This truck is still military green with lots of rust. Swb stepside or whatever. Still had the owners manual in the glove box. Was tempting to take but I've got a reprint.
This truck is still military green with lots of rust. Swb stepside or whatever. Still had the owners manual in the glove box. Was tempting to take but I've got a reprint.
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F25YL890064
F250 352 Michigan Truck born in July of 66'
WB 129
Truck is a long bed of 129" wheel center to wheel center
Color
If this is blank then the truck was painted a non stock color.
Model F250
7500 GVRW, Nominal 3/4 ton
Body D81
Interior trim is custom cab Beige woven plastic with beige vinyl. 81 means it is a conventional type truck using gasoline.
Trans A
New Process 435 four speed
Axle 24
Spicer open rear rated at 5200# with a 4.10 ratio
GVW 7500
Maximum weight of the vehicle with load and passengers 7500#
DSO 33
Is for Detroit. This is the District Office where the dealer ordered it from.
6384 is the special order number. It means the truck was a special order and not bought off the lot. Possibly due to the paint.
Garbz
F250 352 Michigan Truck born in July of 66'
WB 129
Truck is a long bed of 129" wheel center to wheel center
Color
If this is blank then the truck was painted a non stock color.
Model F250
7500 GVRW, Nominal 3/4 ton
Body D81
Interior trim is custom cab Beige woven plastic with beige vinyl. 81 means it is a conventional type truck using gasoline.
Trans A
New Process 435 four speed
Axle 24
Spicer open rear rated at 5200# with a 4.10 ratio
GVW 7500
Maximum weight of the vehicle with load and passengers 7500#
DSO 33
Is for Detroit. This is the District Office where the dealer ordered it from.
6384 is the special order number. It means the truck was a special order and not bought off the lot. Possibly due to the paint.
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Made by New Process Gear... the NP435 was made for ford trucks from 66 to 97 also used in dodge trucks starting in 62 and some chevs and IH trucks as well.
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of 129" wheel center to wheel center. The BODY code of D81 decodes to 81B Custom Cab. 81 is a Conventional Cab / 66 is a Uni / 84 & 85 are Open Drive-Away's / 91 is a C Series Tilt Cab.
The BODY code defines whether the truck is a Custom Cab (81B), Standard Cab (81A), or (1965/66) a Ranger.
The type of fuel the truck uses has nothing to do with the BODY code. That is defined by the SERIES code (if applicable).
btw: MODEL code F250 = F250 2WD, 7500 lbs. GVWR. If the MODEL code is F251 = F250 2WD, 4800 lbs. GVWR.
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If one opens a 65 ford truck shop manual to the very first page of group one. Suddenly at the bottom Right hand corner of the page will appear a model code listing for 1965.
F- Conventional 2 axle Gas.
Looks to me like Ford calls F series for 1965 a gasoline powered 2 axle vehicle, and seeing as it is a body 81 F250 series, logic follows through that my answer is correct as it cannot be anything other than gas powered.
In fact to be a body 81 diesel it would be a K series. And how many of those have we seen? K800 & up? It would be really neat to have a K250 with a Vin E or N.
F251 rating was to beat the state governments weight registrations of 5000#. This allowed the truck to have lower 1/2 ton registration fees.
Every 65 long bed 2 styleside i have had, was a wheel base of 129 inches.
Garbz
F- Conventional 2 axle Gas.
Looks to me like Ford calls F series for 1965 a gasoline powered 2 axle vehicle, and seeing as it is a body 81 F250 series, logic follows through that my answer is correct as it cannot be anything other than gas powered.
In fact to be a body 81 diesel it would be a K series. And how many of those have we seen? K800 & up? It would be really neat to have a K250 with a Vin E or N.
F251 rating was to beat the state governments weight registrations of 5000#. This allowed the truck to have lower 1/2 ton registration fees.
Every 65 long bed 2 styleside i have had, was a wheel base of 129 inches.
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If one opens a 65 ford truck shop manual to the very first page of group one. Suddenly at the bottom Right hand corner of the page will appear a model code listing for 1965.
F- Conventional 2 axle Gas.
Looks to me like Ford calls F series for 1965 a gasoline powered 2 axle vehicle, and seeing as it is a body 81 F250 series, logic follows through that my answer is correct as it cannot be anything other than gas powered.
If you look at the SERIES codes in the General Information Section, page 33, nothing thru F35 is decoded as such.
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In fact to be a body 81 diesel it would be a K series. And how many of those have we seen? K800 & up? It would be really neat to have a K250 with a Vin E or N.
Every 65 long bed 2 styleside i have had, was a wheel base of 129 inches.
F- Conventional 2 axle Gas.
Looks to me like Ford calls F series for 1965 a gasoline powered 2 axle vehicle, and seeing as it is a body 81 F250 series, logic follows through that my answer is correct as it cannot be anything other than gas powered.
If you look at the SERIES codes in the General Information Section, page 33, nothing thru F35 is decoded as such.
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In fact to be a body 81 diesel it would be a K series. And how many of those have we seen? K800 & up? It would be really neat to have a K250 with a Vin E or N.
Every 65 long bed 2 styleside i have had, was a wheel base of 129 inches.
1964/65 SERIES codes: K00 = F1000 (diesel) / K01 = F1100 (diesel).
A Cab & Chassis could have the same 129" wheelbase as a Flareside or Styleside pickup, a Platform (flat bed), or a Platform & Rack (Stake Bed). This is why (thru 1972) that the SERIES code of F25 only decodes to F250 2WD.
Thru 1972, there are no codes in the VIN, nor on the Warranty Plate that decode to what type of "back of cab" equipment a truck could have.
That all changed in 1973.
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Hence the "and how many of those have we seen" Even though the 65 shop manual lists a K series truck.
I have never owned or parted a platform or rack to verify the 129", and i therefore acquiesce to your wisdom.
Garbz
I have never owned or parted a platform or rack to verify the 129", and i therefore acquiesce to your wisdom.
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While in this section, waltz over to the MODEL codes on pages 47-58. See if you can find a K series there.
The SERIES codes are on pages 33 & 34, take a gander there for a K series.
Lotsa luck and happy reading!
You may need eyedrops after reading thru all this jazz.
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Bill is correct...but so is garbz as to what the shop manual says..
The shop manual lists 17...SEVENTEEN different model codes...
A,B,C,D,F,H,J,K,L,N,P,U,R,S,T,W and Y...HOWEVER...if you turn the page theres only mention of the following SERIES on pg 3 and 4..not to be confused with model codes which are stamped in the MODEL area on the Warranty Plate
F and P for 100-350 series
B,C,CT,F,N,T for the 500-800 series
C and N for Dagenham diesel powered units
F,H,HT,CT,N,F(*), HT, C, NT, T,C, for 850-1100 series
The model codes, I believe its safe to say, is the identification for the GVW of the truck even though its also stamped on the Warranty Plate on the bottom line...in the MAX G.V.W. LBS. area...
- CS65
The shop manual lists 17...SEVENTEEN different model codes...
A,B,C,D,F,H,J,K,L,N,P,U,R,S,T,W and Y...HOWEVER...if you turn the page theres only mention of the following SERIES on pg 3 and 4..not to be confused with model codes which are stamped in the MODEL area on the Warranty Plate
F and P for 100-350 series
B,C,CT,F,N,T for the 500-800 series
C and N for Dagenham diesel powered units
F,H,HT,CT,N,F(*), HT, C, NT, T,C, for 850-1100 series
The model codes, I believe its safe to say, is the identification for the GVW of the truck even though its also stamped on the Warranty Plate on the bottom line...in the MAX G.V.W. LBS. area...
- CS65
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