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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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7 Dec 1941

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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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69 years. Reminds you how few veterans from this and WWII are left, let us not forget them.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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So many lives changed forever.
So many lives lost.







I will never forget.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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My Father did his tour in a Sub. The USS Rock in the South Pacific. The "War to end all Wars" ya right. It is taking Mother Earth a long time to heal from that one. It left it's mark on every continent and almost every country. Alaska was the only part of the USA that the Imperial Japanese landed and left there mark. But even here in South East there are channels that have been dug to let US shipping in and Islands that held the Natives from the Islands we fought for. Things like Gun emplacements, Clearings and buildings as well as ships here that hit rocks and sank. You would think our Navy could Navigate better. Any sign around where you all live left still from WWII?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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Never forget the lives lost that day, and the 250,000+ that would follow.
Our fathers and grandfathers lived in incredible times, honor their sacrifice.

Interesting to read some of the quotes of members of the Japanese Admiralty, who believed the attack was "Without honor" and "You give a sleeping foe his sword before you strike"....And Admiral Yamamoto, "All I have done is to awaken a sleeping giant"
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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My Father did his tour in a Sub. The USS Rock in the South Pacific. The "War to end all Wars" ya right. It is taking Mother Earth a long time to heal from that one. It left it's mark on every continent and almost every country. Alaska was the only part of the USA that the Imperial Japanese landed and left there mark. But even here in South East there are channels that have been dug to let US shipping in and Islands that held the Natives from the Islands we fought for. Things like Gun emplacements, Clearings and buildings as well as ships here that hit rocks and sank. You would think our Navy could Navigate better. Any sign around where you all live left still from WWII?
There are quite a few large gun emplacements left around the Bay Area and Cabrillo Point in San Diego. The guns are gone but the concrete is still there and there is no mistaking what they are. Several overlook Funston and others are around the Golden Gate where Fort Point is seen below. Shot taken from the old Army Presidio once home to the Sixth Army.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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My Father did his tour in a Sub. The USS Rock in the South Pacific. The "War to end all Wars" ya right. It is taking Mother Earth a long time to heal from that one. It left it's mark on every continent and almost every country. Alaska was the only part of the USA that the Imperial Japanese landed and left there mark. But even here in South East there are channels that have been dug to let US shipping in and Islands that held the Natives from the Islands we fought for. Things like Gun emplacements, Clearings and buildings as well as ships here that hit rocks and sank. You would think our Navy could Navigate better. Any sign around where you all live left still from WWII?
We got one sign that is still left from WWI as well as WWII, down in San Jacinto we have the only New York class warship in the world (USS New York was expended in target pratice, USS Texas was given to the state in 1947)

In Galveston there is supposedly a WWII fleetboat on display that I think I heard was damaged by Ike.

Aside from that I dont think we have anything like gun emplacements still here or clearings.
 
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Here is a little survivor from Dec. 7th. She is just an ordinary yard tug/fire boat but she is just about the only floating survivor from that day and only 15 miles north of me.

USS Hornet CV-12 CVS-12
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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Down in corpus Cristi we got the USS Lexington, supposedly that one is haunted by vistors claims but havent seen any real proof.

It is nice that alot of these war vetrans survived though cause the US government expended most as target pratice after the war or used them in atom bomb testing out at the bikini atoll test site
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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Beautiful Tug Mike. Thanks. I remember as a kid my Pop took us to an old encampment on Puget Sound. The underground bunkers where cool to a 10 year 0ld. Than when the USS Rock was on display in Bremerton he took us to see that. It had chanced a lot he said but was still his boat. I have tried to find out what happened to it after that. Found a lot of info on the net but not where it may be now. Some went down under for there Navy. Seen an Aussie boat leaving Prince Rupert heading home back in 2000. Man do they put out a lot of smoke. We could see it for miles from the Ferry. They must have been easy to spot when on top running the Diesels.

Dec. 7 1941. A surprise attack. So was 911. Why didn't we handle 911 like we did Pearl? And here we are again happily waiting with our pants down for someone to hit us again. Will we never learn?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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Beautiful Tug Mike. Thanks. I remember as a kid my Pop took us to an old encampment on Puget Sound. The underground bunkers where cool to a 10 year 0ld. Than when the USS Rock was on display in Bremerton he took us to see that. It had chanced a lot he said but was still his boat. I have tried to find out what happened to it after that. Found a lot of info on the net but not where it may be now. Some went down under for there Navy. Seen an Aussie boat leaving Prince Rupert heading home back in 2000. Man do they put out a lot of smoke. We could see it for miles from the Ferry. They must have been easy to spot when on top running the Diesels.

Dec. 7 1941. A surprise attack. So was 911. Why didn't we handle 911 like we did Pearl? And here we are again happily waiting with our pants down for someone to hit us again. Will we never learn?
well what was a small problem in congress after Dec 7, 41 is a major problem now. There was one person that voted against going to war she did so because she said that it would make america look like a war hungry country. People now in government seem to want to quickly avoid confrontation and try to talk it out even though you cant talk with some people.
 
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Down in corpus Cristi we got the USS Lexington, supposedly that one is haunted by vistors claims but havent seen any real proof.
All museum ships are claimed to be haunted nowadays. I know the Hornet is haunted because I have been the ghost several times scaring ghost hunters about the ship. Given my knowledge of getting around the ship in the dark sure does make it easy to convince ghost hunters it is real. I'm sure there are a few videos up on You Tube where they think they hear a ghost clanking around...
 
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All museum ships are claimed to be haunted nowadays. I know the Hornet is haunted because I have been the ghost several times scaring ghost hunters about the ship. Given my knowledge of getting around the ship in the dark sure does make it easy to convince ghost hunters it is real. I'm sure there are a few videos up on You Tube where they think they hear a ghost clanking around...
Yep, but I havent to date heard one story of the BB35 Texas being haunted or the tallship Elissa. I have how ever heard reports about the Lexigton. Some claim that there was a guy dressed up as a sailor telling them about the ship and how it worked and what everything was. The people working there at the exit said that there was no one working dressed as a sailor. Person just disappeared.

But I am reluctant to believe that. Ghost hunters even went there for their tv show and turned up nothing other than noises most of which were the creaking of the dock or wind.
 
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