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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Lets start a tire debate. :)

So I am looking at tires for my girlfriends 98 f150 4x4. I need something good that will work good in snow and rain we live in wisconsin so we see every season even the 5th season (road construction which is like off-roading every day).

When I got tires I went with Goodyear duratrac's. Best tire I have had on my 99 250 but she doesnt want to spend a grand on tires that won't be used for what they are capable of. I do have it narrowed down to 4 different tires. I was looking for personal experiance with them and possible horror stories. I planned on buying them from discount tire which is new for me to buy them online.

Choices.
1. Goodyear wrangler AT/S P265/70/R17
2. Hankook DynaPro ATM RF10 P265/70/R17
3. General Tire Grabber HTS P265/70/R17
4. Toyo Open Country AT P265/70/R17

I am also open to other choices, The reason I picked these is they are all around the same price and seem to have really good reviews.

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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 03:08 AM
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My vote is for Hankook, then Toyo.

Maybe with Nitto thrown in there. I have a set on my truck and have put about 3200 miles on 'em. So far so good, little wear. Maybe 1/32nd gone.

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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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I had a set of Toyo Open Country AT's on my wife's H3 for a little over 2 years till we got rid of it. They performed well in all wet and dry conditions and in the snow and ice.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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I'm not a fan of Generals or Hankooks-I'd recommend the Goodyear silent armor over the ATS
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Michelin all the way, best tire on the road although you pay for it.

Look into this tire
Michelin LTX M/S2

I have these on my '95 F-150 and love them. My dad has the previous version, the LTX MS, on his 04 Silverado 4x4 and it has taken him anywhere he has ever needed to go in any weather. The MS/2 is virtually the same tire with a different compound with a 70,000 mile warranty! They are expensive but if you buy 4 Michelins you get $70 back so that helps some.

They're not extremely aggressive and "off road" looking but they are a FANTASTIC tire. The MS is on a ton of fleet vehicles due to their traction and tread life. The MS/2 is simply the evolution of that tire.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Yeah those Michelins are badass. I for one think the KOs are overpriced, but these MS2s are the real deal. We put a set on our 4runner and at 7K miles, no rotations yet, NO wear at all.

My Nittos are showing wear with under 4k miles on 'em. (granted LOTs of variables, and in particular, I have 17/32nds of tread dept while he has 12)

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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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The tire shop that I bought my Michelins from recommends a rotation every 5000 miles and a balance every other rotation. I think it's just their way of being lazy and not having to balance them every go round. Anyway I took mine in for it's first rotation a week or so ago and anybody looking at them would be hard pressed to tell you that they've been on the road more than a day or two.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:17 AM
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I've got to throw in with Michelin's myself----I'm spoiled for life now! I'm running a '00 E250 that weighs just about 7800 pounds as typically driven and bought the LTX M/S in 245/75R16 E load range just about 32,000 miles ago------can't really see any wear so far.

Due my own negliance I had to replace two of them---bad front end, since rebuilt. Add in some vandalism to one more and I've spent more on tires recently than my first three cars cost in total.

No major problems with wet or dry pavement traction, snow use is acceptable assuming careful driving is your normal practice. Despite the higher initial cost I'll not be brand shopping again--Michelin's all the way!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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When my dad bought his truck it had the LTX M/S's on it and they were basically brand new. That has been about 4 years ago and they are just about to the point of needing replacement. Being said though he's easily put 50,000 miles on it in that time, and these are the original M/S series, not the M/S 2's. His were only supposed to last around 40,000.

As I said before, as far as I am concerned Michelin is the best tire on the road. You pay more for them up front but really it is worth it in the long run. I put Michelin's on my first car and after driving it for 2 years the tires still looked brand new when I traded it. Since then I have not had the money to afford Michelins (mainly on my Corvette WHEW those aren't cheap) but I have made up my mind that I am just not gonna buy tires again for anything until I have the money to put Michelins on them.

My dad never liked Goodyear, had lots of bad experiences. Me I've never had BAD experiences, just never any good. I've had good luck with Kumho for a reasonably performing low cost tire.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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The Bridgestone Revo is awsome and I have 66k on them now but they are hard to find. The Firestone Destination A/T, Michelin LTX AT 2 and Kumho Road Venture SAT KL61 are suposed to be great also.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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Well Thanks for the replys but she decided to go with the hankooks. I had her read reviews about all the tires we were looking at and she decided. It made the most scene for us because she doesn't plan on keeping the truck for more than 5 years and she puts on maybe 6k a year in miles so I would have to replace them again because of dry rot long before tread ware issues. Also she doesn't do the towing or hauling (thats what my truck is for lol).

Thanks again though I appreciate it.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Nathan Plemons
Michelin all the way, best tire on the road although you pay for it.

Look into this tire
Michelin LTX M/S2

I have these on my '95 F-150 and love them. My dad has the previous version, the LTX MS, on his 04 Silverado 4x4 and it has taken him anywhere he has ever needed to go in any weather. The MS/2 is virtually the same tire with a different compound with a 70,000 mile warranty! They are expensive but if you buy 4 Michelins you get $70 back so that helps some.

They're not extremely aggressive and "off road" looking but they are a FANTASTIC tire. The MS is on a ton of fleet vehicles due to their traction and tread life. The MS/2 is simply the evolution of that tire.
Michelin might offer a 70,000 mile warranty and they might make a decent tire. But, if you get bad tires from them and Michelin is notified that the tires have a manufacturing problem/defect, good luck getting Michelin to honor the warranty.

Been there. Done that.

I'm not saying that Michelin makes bad tires. Rather, I'm saying that Michelin is extremely lax about backing their warranty, if you end up with a bad set of tires.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Spike Engineering
Michelin might offer a 70,000 mile warranty and they might make a decent tire. But, if you get bad tires from them and Michelin is notified that the tires have a manufacturing problem/defect, good luck getting Michelin to honor the warranty.

Been there. Done that.

I'm not saying that Michelin makes bad tires. Rather, I'm saying that Michelin is extremely lax about backing their warranty, if you end up with a bad set of tires.
Ironically, I just got a set of Michelin's warrantied through Ford by Michelin.

26.7k miles on the Cross Terrains and Michelin is paying half the the price of 4 new tires.

I think we might be the first in history to get a prorated tire through ford adn michelin.
-rockstate
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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No BFG's in consideration?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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No BFG's in consideration?
BFGs are insanely expensive for mediocre tires.
 
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