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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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Compression Readings on a 302

Ever since I bought my truck a few months ago I have been chasing a rough idle/miss. I pretty much did everything under the sun the book said to do and then some with the help of the members on this forum and my final troubleshooting step was a compression check. Well it turns out that #2 was the worse, and #5, #6, #8 weren't to far off! Here are the numbers -
#1 142psi
#2 83psi
#3 148psi
#4 150psi
#5 130psi
#6 124psi
#7 138psi
#8 130psi
So with the low reading in #2 I redid the test in that cylinder last night and got 85 this time, I then decided to use some oil, however, I think I used to much the first time because the reading was off the gauge! So I blew some oil out and the readings ranged from 150 down to 122 as I let more oil out. Here is my questions, did I use to much oil and if so how much do I need to use? And I understand that if the reading goes up then the low compression is caused by the rings, right, and could the oil also so help the valve seal better as well. I am having a hard time believing its rings. I do not have any oil consumption, smoke, and no soot on the plugs or pipe.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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Well I would have to say that to have a range from 120-150 psi isnt too alarming to me. Most of the time to try to find a more specific range is hard. If you look in a book it may say that proper compression range is somewhere between those numbers. But to have 7 cylinders within that range and then one that drops clear into the 80s, does not sound like a good thing. I would think there has to be something going on to cause that extreme drop in compression.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 06:53 AM
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If it went from 83 to 150 with oil that rules out the valves , ussally the rings....Lew
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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Yeah but to much oil is going to give a false reading correct? How much oil should I use to determine if it the rings or not. Also it's been about 15years since I tore a motor apart but if my rings are bad is that a complete rebuild or can I just re-ring it?
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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A cap full should be enough.....
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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I'd take the next step to a leakdown test. Could be as simple as a sticking valve to a worn cam lobe on that cyl.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Got it, I used more than that! Someone told me to fill the cylinder enough to cover the piston with at least 1/8" coverage!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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OK so I re-accomplished the compression check and used a cap full of oil, much better I think. Dry the pressure was 82 and wet it was 91. The hobby shop on base does not have the tools to perform a leak-down test, however when a friend of mine shot air into the cylinder and I could barely hear a hissing sound coming from the tail pipe. but didn't really hear it anywhere else. I will have to pull the heads regardless if it is the bottom end or top end!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Then its the exhaust valve if the valves where closed all the way , but yeah you need to pull the heads anyway , let us know what you find..
 
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