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Old 12-04-2010, 02:50 AM
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91F150 302 engine swap with a TDI 3.0L

i got a 91 F150 with a rebuilt 87 302 now i git bout 9mpg and tow alot of stuff like a 2800lb camper,a 4horse trailor and my hunting and mud trucks on a 3200lb trailor. now thats alot for my truck so what i was think bout doin was putting the new VW TDI 3.0L turbo desiel in it now it has over 30 more hp and better torque which frankly i need. but im ask ya'lls opinion cuz im tired of gittin no mile and wearing out the truck. i like the smaller desiel cuz it leaves me some room to work on it if i need to. plus i was think bout putting a tuner with it to give it more horses and torque. so what you'll think or got any better ideas?
 
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Old 12-04-2010, 08:21 AM
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It would be easier to buy a ranger put your 302 in it and pull the trailer. Now since the ranger. Is lighter than the f150 it will be easier to tow since the 302 is moving a lighter truck to begin with..... :P
 
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Shoot if your gonna do that, go with the VW 5.0l twin-turbo'ed V-10 out of the Touareg...
 
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In theory it's a good idea, but in practice you gonna have a ton of technical issues to figure out.
 
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If this is the VW/Audi 3.0 V6 diesel then it is a piece of junk. Your 302 will still be going long after the VW engine has been shipped to China to be melted down and shipped back as brake rotors.
 
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You will find a lot more support in terms of adaptors and instructions and such if you would use a 4BT or 6BT Cummins for this swap.
 
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:51 PM
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I'd take out the 302 and drop in the 300 I6. You keep your tranny and would be bolt in swap. Others wil say swap a 351w in, that would be the least amount of changing things over.
 
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In theory it's a good idea, but in practice you gonna have a ton of technical issues to figure out.
That's an understatement...


That's asking for a cross between a basketcase and a nightmare.
 
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Sounds like another wild idea. Maybe just a little easier than dropping in a jet engine.
 
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considering ive never seen anything with a TDI and rear wheel drive, you'd be going from a transaxel to a normal transmission. not to mention, if your going auto, the torque converter is wayy to small on the TDI. like said, go for a 4bt.
 
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considering ive never seen anything with a TDI and rear wheel drive, you'd be going from a transaxel to a normal transmission. not to mention, if your going auto, the torque converter is wayy to small on the TDI. like said, go for a 4bt.
If you intend on pulling, do yourself a favor. Put in a 6BT, and know you've got more than enough motor. We put a 4BT into my buddy's Chevy dually (6spd with 3.73 gears) It would pull just about anything we hooked to the truck, but it did it VERY slowly. Overdrive was pretty well out of the question with anything bigger than an empty trailer.


EDIT: Another vote for NOT doing the TDI swap here. That is intentionally buying yourself a lot of trouble. Granted those motors are great for their intended purpose, of propelling a CAR. They would totally bring the suck in a full size pickup.
 

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I'm always amused by "odd" swaps because I happen to enjoy out-of-the-box thinking and have performed some really strange swaps myself and with friends over the years.

Certainly you can adapt anything to anything if you want to do it bad enough, but it takes time, money and resources. The more complicated the swap the more aggrevation you might have to endure. Certainly you're going going to find a VW Diesel swap kit at your local Autozone.

You'll have to make an engine to tranny adapter, possibly a flywheel extension adapter, custom pilot bushings, custom motor mounts and exhaust, possibly odd shifter linkages depending what you use for a trans.

But guys (and gals) do it all the time. Olds 403 into Fords, Northstars into Dodges, Cummins into anything it fits into, big blocks in place of small blocks, and so on.

Your limit is your imagination, time/effort and wallet, depending on your approach. Obviously the more you can do yourself, the less costly it will be.

It might be easier to buy an older diesel F250 and be done with it - add a hitch and you're good to go.
 
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hey thanks for the replys. but the new TDI 3.0L comes in the VW Touareg as a all wheel drive. now i did my studing on it it has a manual and auto 4x4 transfer case too. but i dont think ill do it cuz i doubt it be dun by next hunting season to tow the trailors. so does anyone have any ideas bout puttin a strong diesel motor in and still leave me some room in there. oh plz na dodge. thanks
 
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I've seen old farmers put tractor engines in pickups before........

Just a thought...
 
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Originally Posted by sthrnarmy
hey thanks for the replys. but the new TDI 3.0L comes in the VW Touareg as a all wheel drive. now i did my studing on it it has a manual and auto 4x4 transfer case too. but i dont think ill do it cuz i doubt it be dun by next hunting season to tow the trailors. so does anyone have any ideas bout puttin a strong diesel motor in and still leave me some room in there. oh plz na dodge. thanks
a cummins is your best bet. and if you think cummins is dodge, you should read up a bit.
 


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