That's not true, it is more expensive to run a diesel for a short time like lets when those people that only keep there vehicles for under 5 years, but if your planing to keep it for ever, and do a ton of mileage, it is WAY cheaper getting a diesel. A diesel will live alot longer than lets say a 460 that is doing the same job everyday as the diesel.

You can let a diesel idle for hours without thinking nothing of it, and diesels use close to nothing of fuel when they idle! My motorhome gets ~12mpg when the same size camper with a 460 tops it at 8mpg.....


Maintenance on these older diesels are way cheaper than gassers, BUT the PowerStroke (1994 and newer Ford Diesels) are much more expensive than gas to maintain. They will still outlive them, but will cost you to do so.

Example: 1 IDI injector = ~30$ plus 10$ core for old ones, witch means 20$ an injector.

1 PowerStroke injector is ~300$.


IDI mechanical fuel pump, 40$
PowerStroke electric fuel pump, 250-300$

Just a couple examples....

 

I wish people would stop putting the 300 in the same catagory as a V6. It's not.

A 300 is simply this; a gasoline fired diesel engine.

 

a 300 can run on diesel??? you have me lost there

 

What he means to say is that the 300 has just about all the capabilities as a diesel, but it's a gas engine.

 

Precisely. Identical to a diesel. Especially the carb'd ones.

I'm not 100% positive on this but I'm fairly sure; A carb'd 300 makes it's peak torque by 1,400 RPM!

That's right off the ground!

Welp, kid, you want power? How about a 300 that will pull the front tires off the ground EVERY TIME YOU LAUNCH?

Check these out. YouTube - Turbo 4.9 Ford Maverick

 

Wow. That, my friend, is absolutely amazing.

 

I thought so too. One of his videos he clearly beats a V8.

 

Why would you want to bore out the 300 that much? The few cubic inches you would gain are not worth losing the cylinder strength. When rebuilding a 300 only have the cylinders bored out if it's necessary. And then only have it bored out what is required. If you can get by with a 0.020" over bore then go with that.


It's a good thing the 300 has nothing to do with a V6. A 300 is an inline 6. Think of a cummins that runs on gas. Comparing a 300 to a v6 is like comparing a 302 V8 to a 2.3L 4cyl.

The 300 parts are much if any more expensive then V8 parts. But you are correct the same parts you'd go with on a V8 are what you want to change on a 300. Anyone wanting to build a 300 should check out this forum. FORDSIX PERFORMANCE • Index page You'll learn just about everything you'd want to know about a 300. There's a member on that site that has a front engine dragster that has run a 8.90 1/4 mile. I believe his makes around 550hp and is naturally aspirated. But he has also put a lot of work and $$ into that motor and if I remember correctly he's turning around 7,200 rpms with it. which is extreme for a 300. He's a 300 guru.

I would say identical to a diesel. The 300 is a fairly low compression engine that doesn't have an diesel injection pump. Oh yea and it has a distributor with spark plugs and plug wires. A diesel wouldn't have those. But they do kind of perform like an old diesel and they are hard to kill. I've seen them still running on 4 cylinders.

That Maverick is pretty cool.

I love 240/300's but the thing I don't like is they just will never sound as good as a healthy V8 when it comes to the exhaust note.

 

Thank you. I was reading this post and the whole time no one corrected the V6 statement until it came to you. The 300 is not a V6 and cannot be compared to it. Shows ignorance. I personally have a 300 in my 94 and routinely get upper 19s to 20s running 70 on the highway. Granted it has FI so it does a little better than the carb version. However if speed off the line isn't a big deal to you the 300 is a pretty unbeatable motor. On the diesel note with the 4bt you could easily put that into a F150. The 4bt weighs 745lbs while the 351W weighs right around 525lbs. Therefore the 4bt isnt that much more. There have been people who put the 4bt in Jeeps, Rangers, even seen one in an Explorer.

 

Amen on that one Bill! I don't think there is any gasoline fueled V6 from 70s to the 90s that can even touch the 300 I6 in durability, reliability, and low end power. And don't bother saying anything about the GM 4.3 Vortec, they were the biggest boat anchor of em all (I had one I know). Personally I don't even like V6s, they lack the off idle low end torque that a truck needs to get a load moving. Sure they'll rev to the moon, but what good is that when you're pulling stumps and dragging heavy logs uphill out of the woods? I personally love the sound of an inline six when it's lugging down pulling a load.
John

 

The only V6 I care for is the new V6 in the Mustang. I think the 300+ HP and good torque too. But that doesn't mean I'd want one in a truck.

 

1960 to 1974. Big bore, short stroke. V6. Matches and outpowers the 300 in some cases. Built for durability. Sure, the 300 ran longer for many reasons, primarily the fact that the 350 sbc became to default gas engine. But V or straight, big or small bore, long or short stroke--it all comes down to cam, compression, and how the engine is tuned.

GMC Big Block V6, V8, & V12 Engine Data

But if you go back to the OP here, you'll find the same questions asked over and over by the op in many different threads and forums. The answers are usually the same, and he persists in going to another forum and asking again. Go figure.

 

I have to say that the new 3.5 v6 ecoboost that ford is putting in the new F150's seems like it could be a real contender. Looks like a good amount of hp and torque. But, it seems rather expensive at the moment.

 

Thanks Ted, Redneck and Pkupman. Grubbworm, the 3.5L Ecoboost is putting over 400 ft lbs of torque to the ground by 2,000 RPM. It's like when the 300 first came out all over again. "What, a 6 with pulling power? No way!" Yes way! That Ecoboost is a torque machine.

85e150six4mtod, you are exactly right. I said it another thread of this kid's, he's not going to stop until he ruins a good thing.

And by the way Ted, you're right about the exhaust note. I will say this however, I do prefer the sound of an I6 lugging than I do a V8. But that's just me!

One more thing. The next person I see compare the 300 to a V6 or put it in the same category is going to receive a package from me. Upon opening up this package, a rabid cat will leap out of the box, attach itself to the offenders face and not let go until it dies of starvation.

Better hope Miss Kitty doesn't figure out here's a soft gooey treat in that bone hard cranium!

 

Bill, just so you know, I wasn't comparing the two sixes. I have a 300 and I love it. I was just saying, like you did, "It's like when the 300 first came out all over again. "What, a 6 with pulling power? No way!" Yes way! That Ecoboost is a torque machine."
It's just too bad that Ford is adding almost $5000 to the price of the truck to get that engine.