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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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I've got two questions.

One, what is the best way to anchor the frame of a house to the foundation? My friends and i are planing on building a ~16x24 ft house out on a farm. We are doing this so we dont have to sleep in the back of our cars at night.

Second, one of my dad's friend said that we could hunt the hogs on his land. The only problem is that the land is inside the city limits. What is the best way to hunt the hogs without a gun?

Chris
 
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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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This sounds like a garage package on a slab.

Use 3/8" NC bolts w/washer on the bottom plate every 4 ft should be plenty strong.

A House foundation is different.

Wild Pigs huh?

With Annette !
 
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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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is the foundation already there?

or are you pouring one?

how permanent are you making the house?

could you get away without a foundation?

who's paying for this, you?


only reason i ask those questions is to see if there's any other building options that you guys might have.... cheaper or easier


hunting hogs without a gun?! watch the first rambo!

bow would probably be the best bet....
 
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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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is the foundation already there?
No, we are poring one.

could you get away without a foundation?
No, we want this to be a small house that you can live out of for a weekend. we hunt at the farm and want a dry warm place to sleep and store our stuff.
who's paying for this, you?
The main part of the bill will be paid for by the land owner and one of my friend's girlfriend's dad.

bow would probably be the best bet....
The only problem is that i dont own a bow nor have i had any real experience with shooting one.

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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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I've got two questions.

One, what is the best way to anchor the frame of a house to the foundation? My friends and i are planing on building a ~16x24 ft house out on a farm. We are doing this so we dont have to sleep in the back of our cars at night.

Second, one of my dad's friend said that we could hunt the hogs on his land. The only problem is that the land is inside the city limits. What is the best way to hunt the hogs without a gun?

Chris
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I almost did'int respond to this, as it sound like someones pullin' legs. But I got nothin better to do right now, so I'll bite.

There are two main types of foundation used in residential construction today. One is called a slab foundation, it has many variants( insulated, free floating, stepped, monolithic,etc.)
It's used only in garage construction in northern climates, but is the preferred method used here in Florida. Most anyone with a little know how, who's willing to sweat can slap down a decent one.

The other is the block foundation, it's got variants as well, but usually consist of several courses of concrete block laid over one another until they reach the desired height for ground slope and ground pitch. These are built over an 8" thick by 16" wide footing usually dug 36" below the ground surface to prevent them from being damaged by freezing temperatures. No inexperienced layman should attempt to build one of these types, it's best left to a competent mason.

As for fasteners, if you are pouring your own slab, I would use 1/2" dia x 6" length anchor bolts, these are L shaped bolts with one threaded end to them, they are set into the concrete right after it's poured and leveled. They should be inserted every 3 to 4 ft , and left protruding about 2". You can buy these from the same place you order your concrete from.

If you already have an existing foundation of either type, then you will need to drill holes 3" deep and as far in from the edge as possible without missing the sole plate(or sill plate if block foundation). The bit should be a hardened carbide masonary type , of appropriate diameter. Then you can use drop in sleeves made from hardened lead. Once these sleeves are set (you may have to work the drill bit side to side a bit to open the hole enough so that the sleeves won't be to deformed from being set) you will insert sleeve anchors into the sleeves themselves.
These anchors also have one threaded side to them and when set will compress the sleeve into the sides of the hole.
You now have almost the same thing as if you had anchors det in from the start.

As far as hogs go, they are best left alone unless you have experience with them.
Many hunters armed even with firearms have been killed by wounded hogs. Even the best bow hunters usually use tree stands while hunting them, and with a bow you have far less effective range, and almost no opportunity for a second shot should one charge you.

Since you have to ask what to hunt them with, I'll assume you have no hunting experience outside of firearms, that being said it would be best to leave them alone if you cant use at least a shotgun.

Theres my 10 bucks.


Regards.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 02:54 AM
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hunting hogs without a gun?! watch the first rambo!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 04:32 AM
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Man, I had to go to the store during my post-got back and missed your 2nd post, I was only gone 5min at most, damn I must be a slow typer....lol.

well hope I could help.



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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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for hunting hogs ...very quietly...A Cross Bow...works also for dictators who commit genocide on their own people!!!fd
 
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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You had better be a good shot too
 
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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I will assume that the house will be built in the Beaumont area where the Plasticity Index is high due to the Houston Black Clay substrata. I would suggest grade beams 24" into virgin soil with a width of 12". Any load bearing wall should have a beam under it. A 5" cap with 1/2" rebar both directions at 10" on centers for the mat. Stirrups of 3/8" rebar and beam steel of #6 rebar top and bottom. Fastners should be 1/2" x 7" L shaped anchor bolts 6 ft on centers and no more than 12" from corners. This will get you by code if any inspections are required. A cheaper way would be to have an engineer spec out a post tension slab for you. Problem with P/T slabs is that they flex a lot and if your finish out is driwall you can count on cracks. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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Forget the foundation all this little cabin needs are a couple of timber skids so you can drag it around from place to place with a tractor.
As for hunting hogs in the city limits without firearms because its illegal to discharge them within the city limits there are ways.
out here there are people who use pit bulls to catch and hold the hogs then you just walk up and stick them with your knife.
Then there are some really brave guys who do the same from treestands without the dogs. Just sit there till the hogs come by jump on one and stick it.
You should be aware of a minor point here. Hogs don't like this and contrary to what some people think they do not just roll over and die just cuz someone jumped on them and stuck them. They will do everything within their power to survive at any cost and many fine dogs have been lost to them. I myself put over a hundred stitches in one dog from one encounter with a hog that lasted for about 1/2 of a second.
Just be careful and stay away from the bussiness end of the hog. You can grab it by its hind feet and and hold it up like a wheelbarrow and then your freind can stick it.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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Yeah, and get some velcro gloves or those sticky ones that pro football players wear, they really help.

Waxy

P.S. Be sure to sharpen your stick real good!
 
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 12:47 AM
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Yeah I forgot your hands can get awful slippery what with the blood spraying all over the place. Those gloves are a great idea.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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did you ever think about just getting a travel trailer and living in that? it's mobile, it solid enough, and everythings all ready to go and hook up and live in. and for 15,000 bucks you'll be ready to go without doing any work whatsover. if you keep it in nice shape the resale value is good too. my brother has one he lives in on his job sites, and i spent a summer with him and the two of us lived in it. it sucks at times because its small, but it is very cost efficient. it would save you guys alot of work, and probably money too. a 35 footer, you could probably sleep and house 4 guys in comfortably- depending on what options you went with.... just something to consider!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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i got some good news and some bad news.
The bad news is that the house project has been canceled. Do to the fact that the land owner cant run electricity and some other factors. Back to sleeping in the back of the car.

The good new is that i found two ways to hunt the hogs. one is with a cross bow and the other is a snare and a .22. A .22 should be able to kill em with a shot through the head after they are caught in the snare, plus it is not very loud.

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