I HAVE A VIN!!!
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Fleet Mechanic
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I HAVE A VIN!!!
so hi guys.after looking for the vin in the frame i found it,reads FIHJIDLI8029 , the one in the glove box reads *97HC*190162*LB and the firewall is DLS DI6II6 does anyone know if the numbers match or did they sell me a chopper
Last edited by iwanaflattie; Nov 30, 2010 at 04:59 AM. Reason: adding more info
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The first number does not look like a vin
usually its in this format F10R6-000000 unless it was assigned a serial number at some time in its past? f10 for f100 R for engine code 6 for 1956 etc. I think I am missing a letter or number in there somewhere.
usually its in this format F10R6-000000 unless it was assigned a serial number at some time in its past? f10 for f100 R for engine code 6 for 1956 etc. I think I am missing a letter or number in there somewhere.
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From: NM
It should be:
Fx where x = 1, 2, 3 for F-1, F-2, etc
R or H = engine code (V8 or 6)
Y = last digit of year made
XX = assembly plant code
XXXXXX = sequential number
Look closely at the frame #, it could be correct if you've misread a couple digits
Can you post a pic of the one in your glovebox? I don't think that is the Serial Number; I think it's saying 6-cyl F-1
Fx where x = 1, 2, 3 for F-1, F-2, etc
R or H = engine code (V8 or 6)
Y = last digit of year made
XX = assembly plant code
XXXXXX = sequential number
Look closely at the frame #, it could be correct if you've misread a couple digits
Can you post a pic of the one in your glovebox? I don't think that is the Serial Number; I think it's saying 6-cyl F-1
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I posted the following in the 48-50 VIN thread even tho the truck doesn't belong there. (the glove box does lol) Bottom line is the frame and cab match.
Check the frame number again. The J shouldn't be there.
F1 - halfton
H - 225 flathead 6
I - ford used the letter I in place of 1 and means 1951
DL - Dallas assembly plant
18029 is the actual serial number
Firewall:
DL - Dallas assembly plant
S - should be color code for gray I believe
D1 or D16 should be date of assembly (D is for April)
The glovebox door OR the tag was replaced with one from a 49 halfton with a 226 six assembled in Long Beach CA. The lines should not match with your 51 dash.
Check the frame number again. The J shouldn't be there.
F1 - halfton
H - 225 flathead 6
I - ford used the letter I in place of 1 and means 1951
DL - Dallas assembly plant
18029 is the actual serial number
Firewall:
DL - Dallas assembly plant
S - should be color code for gray I believe
D1 or D16 should be date of assembly (D is for April)
The glovebox door OR the tag was replaced with one from a 49 halfton with a 226 six assembled in Long Beach CA. The lines should not match with your 51 dash.
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FIHJIDLI8029 Not sure about this at all. But the SN on the frame should have the * at both ends showing the beginning and end of the SN.
*97HC*190162*LB
9 = '49 or '50 maybe 51 could have been there too
7H = Strait 6
C = 1/2 ton (f1)
190162 = SN
LB = Long Beach
DLS DI6II6 is this stamped into the metal of the cowl? If so
D = Should be the color code
LS (could this be LB) Long Beach
DI6 = April 16 built date
116 = Number down the line
Does you dash have two circles for gauges?
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mtflat, aren't the glovebox doors the same except the 51 have hole on top to mount to trim to? Your read it like the '52 SN scheme... Cool maybe Dallas started it in '51.
Last edited by Moe Craig; Nov 30, 2010 at 09:02 AM. Reason: More Info
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i will post some pictures later on as i dont have my usb cable ....thank you very much all...the guy gave me a title and it reads 1950 and the vin number they used is the one from the glove box plate....i hope he didnt screw me,plus the title gives another licence plate than the one on the truck,and the plates that are on the 51 right now has tags for nov 2010 the guy said hes been drivin it,,,,so im hoping he didnt gimme the title for another truck and then there will be buck up fees or the sheriff will show up at my door
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i forgot to mention that the po removed the little plate on the glove box and its now screwed on the firewall next to the firewall...im hoping that he didnt take the tag out of a 50 and game the title...and yes i have 2 cluster gauges 1 speedo the other temp oil gas and batt
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I posted in the same thread Tim did, but I'll echo what I said here. The glove box and title match, but not the rest of the truck. You got a problem there. There are two serial number plates, one on the firewall upper corner, and the glove box door. They should be the same.
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No, tell them the title VIN is wrong to your truck, and that you want to correct the title using the frame number. But make sure you have the frame number right (as said, no J) It might end up being a bonded title, but it's better to be bonded than being illegal. It sux for you, I know. It might even require an inspection by the CHP to verify the frame vin. It the title isn't in your name yet, they can't say you were the one who swapped titles and serial plates. They would have to go by the name on the title, and investigate that. Others more familiar with CA law should pipe in since I'm in MN with different laws.
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I'll give ya my story quicklike. My first F1 was a 1948, it had a frame number that didn't match the cab and glove box. I was considering using the body's number, but another guy in town (small town, I know the guy, and it was my friend who parted two trucks to make 1, and sold the rest to that guy) and if he used the frame number for titling, it would be the same as my title, if I had used the cab number. If I had used my frame number, and the other guy used his cab number, we'd have the same numbers again. Would it go into the DMV database as the same number, it would raise a big red flag. I would be charged with VIN fraud, which is pretty big. The best way for me was to find another '48 F1, that had a title, and use that title with my first '48's body parts and junk the first frame since it was the frame number that matters. I didn't talk to the other guy and ask what number he used. But at some point I will, just to see if my first frame is still valid to apply for a title.
In a nutshell, don't be as guilty as the guy who sold it to you.
In a nutshell, don't be as guilty as the guy who sold it to you.
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1951/1952 VINs should look like this:
F1R1RH12345
First two characters decode the truck model (F1, F2, etc). Third character is engine. Fourth character is year (1=1951, 2=1952). Fifth and sixth characters together denote the production plant (RH for Richmond, CA; LB for Long Beach, CA). The rest of the digits is the production sequence.
I'd agree with everyone else on here that you have a title and VIN from a 1950, while the truck is a 1951 as evidenced by the stamped VIN on the frame.
My advice to you is don't go to the CHP. The process will take forever. Ask your sheriff friend for help and advice. I'd try to correct the registration and title by using the VIN on the frame. Let's hope that there aren't any issues with the truck being stolen or something else. Do you still have the contact info from the prior owner? You may want to call him up and advise him of the situation. Maybe he has some "insight" why the paperwork doesn't match.
F1R1RH12345
First two characters decode the truck model (F1, F2, etc). Third character is engine. Fourth character is year (1=1951, 2=1952). Fifth and sixth characters together denote the production plant (RH for Richmond, CA; LB for Long Beach, CA). The rest of the digits is the production sequence.
I'd agree with everyone else on here that you have a title and VIN from a 1950, while the truck is a 1951 as evidenced by the stamped VIN on the frame.
My advice to you is don't go to the CHP. The process will take forever. Ask your sheriff friend for help and advice. I'd try to correct the registration and title by using the VIN on the frame. Let's hope that there aren't any issues with the truck being stolen or something else. Do you still have the contact info from the prior owner? You may want to call him up and advise him of the situation. Maybe he has some "insight" why the paperwork doesn't match.