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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Powerstroke-7.3
Is this true even with just a 4" lift?
Really wouldn't think so. 4" isnt that much lift, plus alot of 4" kits actually only lift the rear 2" or so to keep a level stance when lifted, so your rear pinion angle doesn't change that much as to require driveline spacers and carrier shims.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
So what kits use Deaver springs now?
None that I am aware of, I got my Deaver springs straight from Deaver.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Waltdog
None that I am aware of, I got my Deaver springs straight from Deaver.
So do they offer more than their website lists? I don't see any 4" lift springs available from them listed for our trucks. I guess that means the rest of the parts need to be put toghether separate? Shocks, track bar bracket, pitman arm drop, etc.? For a 4" lift, do they have rear springs available or should we just stick with blocks?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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They will make pretty much any spring you want, I would imagine if you called Deaver and asked for the springs they used to provide for the 4" kit, they would oblige. Of course that leaves you piecing together the rest of the components so you'd end up paying same pretty heavy shipping rates twice. Icon does sell their components individually

Chris is this for your wife's truck,its a 4WD right?

I have a block in the rear of my truck and if I had a chance to do it over I would go spring in the rear, however both methods are going to be susceptible to axle wrap. However at 4 inch you could remove the 2 inch block and put a 4 inch block in its place, thus retaining the factory overloads if they are present.

I have an Icon /Deaver combo on my truck so if you have any more questions ill try to help
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Waltdog
They will make pretty much any spring you want, I would imagine if you called Deaver and asked for the springs they used to provide for the 4" kit, they would oblige. Of course that leaves you piecing together the rest of the components so you'd end up paying same pretty heavy shipping rates twice. Icon does sell their components individually

Chris is this for your wife's truck,its a 4WD right?

I have a block in the rear of my truck and if I had a chance to do it over I would go spring in the rear, however both methods are going to be susceptible to axle wrap. However at 4 inch you could remove the 2 inch block and put a 4 inch block in its place, thus retaining the factory overloads if they are present.

I have an Icon /Deaver combo on my truck so if you have any more questions ill try to help
Yes this is for the wife's 4wd. I've heard many say springs are better than blocks for the rear but have never seen any kits that included rear springs.

How many leafs do the deaver fronts come with? Could I just go to a semi-local spring shop and have them build the same type set up, or is there something magical about Deaver? I'm not too concerned about piecing togethter parts. I can do that if needed. I might even talk to Clay about building his own kit based on a few different parts I've been looking at. I know he's a Deaver fan also.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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I have the "heavy service" spring they sell, its a 2 leaf design, similar to stock. 6k rating.
There is nothing too special about Deaver springs, they go the extra mile when it comes to the quality they put into there products. They have built a good reputation so that is why they are so widely known.

If you have a local spring shop and feel they are good guys I am sure they could do you right. Also you could get Deaver at Truck Toyz in McAllen TX or Rock and Roll Offroad in North Richland Hills, TX
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
Yes this is for the wife's 4wd. I've heard many say springs are better than blocks for the rear but have never seen any kits that included rear springs.

How many leafs do the deaver fronts come with? Could I just go to a semi-local spring shop and have them build the same type set up, or is there something magical about Deaver? I'm not too concerned about piecing togethter parts. I can do that if needed. I might even talk to Clay about building his own kit based on a few different parts I've been looking at. I know he's a Deaver fan also.
I can help you Chris when you are ready. Like Walt said it isn't that Deaver is magical, just quality and better steel than most out there.

Here is a link to why I would suggest traction blocks in the rear rather than all spring. I am using them with stock excursion springs and my truck finally rides much better and tows way better. Most unexpected thing was that it actually made my shifting way better as well and got rid of some shake. We are a dealer for OUO but haven't got it on the site yet, if you have any questions.

YouTube - OUO Traction Blocks Vs. the All Spring Lift.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 06:13 AM
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clay, how much lift with stock spring and is there a smaller block model?
thanks wes
i have a early 99 (6-98) 4x4 super cab sb 6 speed
 
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 429 f-100
clay, how much lift with stock spring and is there a smaller block model?
thanks wes
i have a early 99 (6-98) 4x4 super cab sb 6 speed
Not sure what you mean by stock spring, sorry. Can you elaborate?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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I've seen that video before and its more than impressive!!! I want a set of those BAD. Ya never really know how much asle wrap you get til you see it like that! Amazing what trac bars will do with no limit what so ever to functions of the spring/truck as far as articulation/ride goes. Only makes things better!!!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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BTW Clay: Do you offer those trac bars or any other? I looked on your site but could not find anything. Just wonderin.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KH85
BTW Clay: Do you offer those trac bars or any other? I looked on your site but could not find anything. Just wonderin.
Yes, I do offer the OUO products, but we are still getting them onto the site. If you have questions give us a call. Should have that section up by the end of the week though.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by F250_JR
Just make sure you chock the wheels front and rear BEFORE you disconnect the drive shaft.
Im pretty sure everyone makes that mistake, I was just taking out the drive shaft in the f350 to put a zerk fitting to grease the slip joint. I was wondering why the last bolt was so freakin hard to loosen. Turns out all the trucks weight was on it. I didn't chock the wheels or even put the E-brake on. Needless to say do the driveway the truck went with me under it, right into our 1987 toyota 22R 4x4 i just got done restoring.

Perfect instance of learning from mistakes becuase that will never happen again.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Riffraff Performance
Yes, I do offer the OUO products, but we are still getting them onto the site. If you have questions give us a call. Should have that section up by the end of the week though.
Sweetness!!!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Riffraff Performance
Here is a link to why I would suggest traction blocks in the rear rather than all spring.
But that's about traction bars Clay. You can still get axle wrap with stock springs. I don't know if lifted springs will cause it to wrap worse or if you have to re-gear before that becomes an issue. Or do using blocks with stock springs make it wrap worse?

Will rear lift blocks or rear lift springs give the best ride when only dealing with a 4" lift? If traction bars are needed, I'll just build a set myself. (and probably have to get them powder coated, but that's another story ).
 
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