Beans or Riffraff intake?
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Beans or Riffraff intake?
Ok guys im newer to this diesel game and im getting ready to order an intake but I cant decide between the Riffraff or the Tymar from Beans. It appears to me the only differnce between the 2 is that the Tymar costs more since it has the whole steel pipe thing going where as the Riffraff makes use of the factory flex pipe. Which way do I go?
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Tymar came up with the idea first. Then the DIY crowd figured out it was a 6637 filter and started just sticking that filter in ourself. The Riffraff kit has rounded up the parts for you. Seems like the only difference I remember is the Tymar comes with a stand off bracket which many say is not needed. It's your money. Either one will work.
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Tymar came up with the idea first. Then the DIY crowd figured out it was a 6637 filter and started just sticking that filter in ourself. The Riffraff kit has rounded up the parts for you. Seems like the only difference I remember is the Tymar comes with a stand off bracket which many say is not needed. It's your money. Either one will work.
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I have researched this a few years back. The Napa 6637 is a Donaldson filter (actually has a Donaldson sticker on it) and no matter where you buy the filter (tymar, beans or Napa) it isn't the water resistant filter. That is either a marketing ploy by Tymar from back in the day or just an internet myth. Donaldson does make a water resistant filter exactly like the 6637 but it is about 3 times the cost of the 6637/tymar filter.
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PSDFan- the name of this game is to simply chuck the stock airbox and fit a "6637 style" air cleaner element in it's place. You can buy the washable/reusable type, which becomes water resistant when treated with air cleaner oil OR the cheaper, one use only, disposable type. I don't like washing and oiling air cleaners, so I use the Duralite disposable from Dieselfiltersonline along with the sock from Riffraff which I lightly treat with Scotchgard to ensure it's water repellent.
The entire intake ducting/battery tray/airbox configuration varies between PSD year models. Likewise, the later 7.3s have more sound deadening insulation under the hood, which can cause clearance issues with the 6637. To fit mine ('02 model) all I needed was a 3-1/4" long piece of 4" diameter straight pipe that connects the 6637 to the stock flex tubing and a good compression clamp for the neck of the air cleaner. But in order to position the 6637 low enough to clear the hood insulation, I had to trim the high side off the bottom of the intergral battery tray/air box support (easy). So I at least retain the air inlet duct pipe that comes in from behind the radiator support bracket. Earlier PSDs don't have this one piece battery tray/air box setup, so that MAY not be neccesary.
So basically, decide whether you want the reusable OR disposable 6637 and buy one. Then yank the stock air box completely intact, see how the 6637 fits and determine what you need to join it to the stock flex. You may need an elbow or you may not. Retain as much of the air inlet duct pipe as you can to keep at least some air flow from the grill. Later, if you're feeling so inclined, you can fabricate an airbox (see previous post) that isolates the 6637 from hot engine air. Every 8 degree drop in intake air temp yields approx 2 extra ponies. Radiators run at 175 to 190 degress. Do the math.
Also, go ahead and do the CCV bypass (if your year model needs it) while you're doing the 6637. That way you're done with the air train. All you need for that is a 3-1/2 to 4" long piece of some more 4" straight pipe, a couple of hose clamps and some oil grade hose.
Of course if I were building a sled puller, I'd run 4" pipe all the way from the air cleaner to the turbine. Otherwise, the flex tubing should be adequate! At any rate, the 6637 is probably the single best performance improvement you can make to a PSD.
The entire intake ducting/battery tray/airbox configuration varies between PSD year models. Likewise, the later 7.3s have more sound deadening insulation under the hood, which can cause clearance issues with the 6637. To fit mine ('02 model) all I needed was a 3-1/4" long piece of 4" diameter straight pipe that connects the 6637 to the stock flex tubing and a good compression clamp for the neck of the air cleaner. But in order to position the 6637 low enough to clear the hood insulation, I had to trim the high side off the bottom of the intergral battery tray/air box support (easy). So I at least retain the air inlet duct pipe that comes in from behind the radiator support bracket. Earlier PSDs don't have this one piece battery tray/air box setup, so that MAY not be neccesary.
So basically, decide whether you want the reusable OR disposable 6637 and buy one. Then yank the stock air box completely intact, see how the 6637 fits and determine what you need to join it to the stock flex. You may need an elbow or you may not. Retain as much of the air inlet duct pipe as you can to keep at least some air flow from the grill. Later, if you're feeling so inclined, you can fabricate an airbox (see previous post) that isolates the 6637 from hot engine air. Every 8 degree drop in intake air temp yields approx 2 extra ponies. Radiators run at 175 to 190 degress. Do the math.
Also, go ahead and do the CCV bypass (if your year model needs it) while you're doing the 6637. That way you're done with the air train. All you need for that is a 3-1/2 to 4" long piece of some more 4" straight pipe, a couple of hose clamps and some oil grade hose.
Of course if I were building a sled puller, I'd run 4" pipe all the way from the air cleaner to the turbine. Otherwise, the flex tubing should be adequate! At any rate, the 6637 is probably the single best performance improvement you can make to a PSD.
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