manual steering
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I have a 69 manual gear box I'd let You have for next to nothing if You want it. I am converting to power and don't need the one that came in my truck. I was just going to scrap it. I don't know what shipping would cost, let me know if you're interested. Dan
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Hey thanks Dan, I might take you up on that.....gotta see what the mechanic has to say on monday. Where are you at and is the gear in good order? What about the other parts mentioned above, the u joint or any other left overs you don't need that I might? I'd like to hear about the conversion too! Thanx
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Correctamundo. But, I never typed one word about a 2WD rag joint, since the OP's truck is a 1971 F100 4WD.
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
What rag joint? There isn't one on any F100/250 4WD until 1976.
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Hey thanks Dan, I might take you up on that.....gotta see what the mechanic has to say on monday. Where are you at and is the gear in good order? What about the other parts mentioned above, the u joint or any other left overs you don't need that I might? I'd like to hear about the conversion too! Thanx
So I cut the frame off and welded a 77' front half of frame in making the P.S. box a direct bolt in.
I live in the Upper peninsula of Michigan.
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years ago we had 2 wheel drive trucks for work so thats mostly what i remember , ford seems to use what ever they had laying around at that time . old cornbinders were that way also at least the ones we had !
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Bumpside (and etc) rag joints.
C6TZ3A525A .. Steering Coupler (rag joint) / Fits: 1966 F100/250 2WD from serial # 900,001 / 1967/68 F100/250 2WD & F350.
C9UZ3A525A .. Steering Coupler (rag joint) / Fits: 1969/74 F100/250 2WD & F350 / 1975 F100/250 2WD & F350 all w/Manual Steering / 1969/74 Econoline.
C9UZ3A525A .. Steering Coupler (rag joint) / Fits: 1969/74 F100/250 2WD & F350 / 1975 F100/250 2WD & F350 all w/Manual Steering / 1969/74 Econoline.
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1966/75 F100 4WD's have a lower steering shaft and coupler assy that connects directly to the steering gearbox by way of a U shaped clamp and thru bolt.
The steering shaft and coupler used in these trucks is composed of 18 individual parts including a U-joint.
The steering shaft and coupler used in these trucks is composed of 18 individual parts including a U-joint.
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Well guys.....got alot more wrong tnan just the gear....ball joints, seals, and who knows what else. Mechanic estimates bout $1500 for the job, probably a good time for the power steering conversion? Only thing is he's pretty set against the old ford steering parts and would rather upgrade (fab) to a saginaw gear for even more big bucks. He would put back in a manual gear but says they're basically crap (under geared) so I'm not sure which direction to take. Oh yeah....it gets worse...now i need a clutch as well.....and a carb.....my new baby is turning into a project!! Thanx for all the input so far, think its time for a new thread.
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Is there a repair kit for this coupler. My play is definitely in this coupler.
Also my 68 has been converted to power steering. It must be from a 73 or 74 as I believe Bill has said that those are the years that had the cylinder down at the axle (it leaks). Can this still be easily converted to the later style power steering?
1968 what? F100 or F250? 2WD or 4WD?
Also my 68 has been converted to power steering. It must be from a 73 or 74 as I believe Bill has said that those are the years that had the cylinder down at the axle (it leaks). Can this still be easily converted to the later style power steering?
1968 what? F100 or F250? 2WD or 4WD?
See post 15 for the info. The U-joint is available, even though someone said it was obsolete. The part number was changed...more than once to E2HZ3815A.
2WD & 4WD manual steering gearboxes: The parts are obsolete, but can still be found at Ford Dealers, obsolete parts vendors.
These are EZ gearboxes to repair, since there isn't much to them. 1500 bucks to rebuild one is outrageous...and where in the world does the mechanic plan on buying the parts?
Autoparts stores might have the seal, but that's about it. The usual cost for all the parts from Ford Dealers/obsolete parts vendors will run about 200 bucks (less the sector and worm shafts), around 500 bucks...for everything.
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$1500 is the price for front suspension......ball joints. axle seals and whatnot. Did anyone read about that powersteering conversion that I posted a link to?? I'd like to read your take(s) on it. How much should a clutch cost to replace....parts/labor??
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The so called $35.00 rebuild kit that NAPA is selling is nothing more than the seal kit, since nothing else is available.
The seal kits (input & output shaft) can be bought from Ford for less than 35 bucks.
The popular conversion I've read about here on FTE for 1966/77 F100/150 4WD's, is the P/S gearbox used on 1978/79 F150 4WD's & Bronco's.
Don't ask me what's involved, I only know what I've read here on FTE and I HATE swaps, you wanna know why?
People swap parts around, but fail to record what the parts came from.
Sooner or later, something breaks, so either the person that made the swap, or a new owner waltzes into the parts dept, lays a bunch of greasy parts on the counter and sez..what does this stuff fit?
I went thru this scenario 100's times, because some people haven't a clue.
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Originally Posted by 60F100
Is there a repair kit for this coupler. My play is definitely in this coupler.
Also my 68 has been converted to power steering. It must be from a 73 or 74 as I believe Bill has said that those are the years that had the cylinder down at the axle (it leaks). Can this still be easily converted to the later style power steering?
1968 what? F100 or F250? 2WD or 4WD?
Is there a repair kit for this coupler. My play is definitely in this coupler.
Also my 68 has been converted to power steering. It must be from a 73 or 74 as I believe Bill has said that those are the years that had the cylinder down at the axle (it leaks). Can this still be easily converted to the later style power steering?
1968 what? F100 or F250? 2WD or 4WD?
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1973/77 4WD's came with Power Assist P/S which uses a separate control valve and ram cylinder. The manual gearbox is used, because it has nothing to do with Power Assist.
Power Assist: Two hoses route from the pump to the control valve, two short hoses route from the control valve to the ram cylinder.
Dunno what P/S you have if Power Assist hasn't been swapped in. Ford didn't offer integral P/S until 1978 on 4WD's. No P/S was offered prior to 1973 on 4WD's.
Power Assist: Two hoses route from the pump to the control valve, two short hoses route from the control valve to the ram cylinder.
Dunno what P/S you have if Power Assist hasn't been swapped in. Ford didn't offer integral P/S until 1978 on 4WD's. No P/S was offered prior to 1973 on 4WD's.